On 5/31/2011 11:08 AM, Joe Salowey wrote:

> 
> On May 23, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Glen Zorn wrote:
> 
>> On 5/24/2011 12:53 AM, Joe Salowey wrote:
>>
>>> One benefit I see in keeping the same EAP method type code is it allows 
>>> secure version negotiation from v1 to v2 with version rollback protection.  
>>>
>>> However, moving to a new EAP type code would seem to make EAP method 
>>> negotiation somewhat better since all implementation may not implement v1.  
>>>  
>>>
>>> I'm OK with assigning a new EAP method type code,  but I'd like to try to 
>>> maintain some backward compatibility with the v1 versioning in the case 
>>> that v1 
>>>
>>> implementations find it advantageous to negotiate the v2 feature set under 
>>> the v1 type code. 
>>
>> None of this seems to me to be relevant to the IETF, the emu WG or the
>> discussion at hand.  
> 
> [Joe] I would hope that negotiation of methods is relevant to the EMU WG. 

Hmm.  I thought we were talking about EAP-FAST version negotiation.

> 
>> Just to be clear, EAP-FAST is not a product of any
>> IETF WG and does not specify a standard of any kind.  Furthermore,
>> regardless of the IANA type registration status, EAP-FAST is, in fact, a
>> proprietary protocol; it's publication in RFC 4851 reflects the RFC
>> Series as a vanity press, not the IETF as a SDO.  The method that this
>> WG is developing will be a standard, however, and must not be tethered
>> in any way to a proprietary protocol; i.e., backward compatibility with
>> EAP-FAST.  Whatever the name of the tunneled method ends up to be, the
>> version number must be one (1).  
> 
> [Joe]  A new method name would be good.  

A new EAP type would be better.  If a new EAP type is assigned, how does
it make sense to start the version numbering for that type @ 2?

> How the protocol evolves is up to the working group.  

Absolutely, but unless the rules have changed rather drastically
recently, I'm pretty sure that I'm a WG member...

> 
>> If a vendor wants to track the IETF
>> protocol development for whatever reason so that, for example, v2 of its
>> protocol is equivalent to v1 of the standard then that is their choice,
>> but enabling (let alone encouraging) that behavior is not any of our
>> concern.
>>
>> ...
>> <gwz.vcf>
> 
> 
> 

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