Agree. We will clarify that.

On 10/8/12 1:11 AM, "Jim Schaad" <i...@augustcellars.com> wrote:

>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hao Zhou (hzhou) [mailto:hz...@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 3:06 PM
>> To: Jim Schaad; emu@ietf.org; draft-ietf-emu-eap-tunnel-
>> met...@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Emu] More COmments 2 on eap-tunnel-method
>> 
>> Jim:
>> 
>> Please see comments below.
>> 
>> On 10/1/12 1:10 PM, "Jim Schaad" <i...@augustcellars.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >I found two that I forgot to include in the last message
>> >
>> >1.  When exporting the user-id, does there need to be a way to
>> >distinguish at export time between the different types of ids that are
>> >authenticated by the server?  This does not seem to be an issue on the
>> >peer as it will only do mutual authentication to servers and thus only
>> >have server ids, however a server may authenticate to different types
>> >of identities on the peer.  At the moment we have identified user and
>> >machines as types of entities to be identified, I suppose in the future
>> >we could add Ewoks as a different type of entity that could be
>> >identified.  However the export function of user-ids does not make a
>> >distinction between the different types of authenticated entities.
>> >Should it do so or should it just export user authentications?
>> [HZ] It helps to export the identities as well as the corresponding
>identity
>> types (from the Identity Type TLV). Will add text.
>> >
>> >2.  Is there a map of TLVs that should not be sent together or need to
>> >be processed in a specific order?  The case I was looking at was for
>> >the Identity TLV and the EAP TLV.  Is there a difference in how a peer
>> >should react for the following?
>> >
>> >  Identity TLV (Send me a machine Identity), EAP TLV (Start the EAP
>> >type
>> >XX)
>> >  EAP TLV (Start EAP type XXX), Identity TLV (Send me a machine
>> >Identity)
>> >
>> >Or should these two TLVs never occur in a single message?
>> [HZ] We had some discussion in WG and take the design principal of TLV
>> ordering should not matter. We disallow simultaneous EAP inner methods
>> and/or with Basic Password Authentication, so rest of the TLVs order
>should
>> not matter. If it does matter, it should be a nested TLV, as in Result
>>TLV
>and
>> Request-Action TLV. Need to add text to disallow Inner EAP method with
>> parallel Basic Password Authentication TLV.
>
>[JLS]  If order of TLVs does not matter, then there is an implied order
>that
>the TLVs should be processed.  That is one should always process the
>Identity TLV before processing the EAP TLV as the identity TLV is a hint
>to
>the type of identity that is to be used in the EAP method.  Conversely it
>might be that these two TLVs should never occur in the same message.
>
>Ditto with the Basic Password Authentication TLV and the Identity TLV.
>
>Jim
>
>> >
>> >Jim
>> >
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