Hi Göran,

Thank you again for your comments.

We have incorporated them into the a new 06 version of the draft that we just submitted.

Best Regards,
Dan.


On 6/12/21 12:13, Göran Selander wrote:

Hi Dan,

Please find my replies to your two questions about the update inline below.

Best regards

Göran

*From: *Dan Garcia Carrillo <[email protected]>

    "The communication with the last resource (e.g. '/a/w') from this
    point MUST be protected with OSCORE except during a new
    (re)authentication (see Section 3.3)."

    I don't understand why there is an exception. OSCORE seems to be
    applied to communication with the last resource in all cases:

    * In the case of new authentication the procedure explained in
    Section 3.2 applies protection with OSCORE in communication with
    the last resource.

    * In the case of re-authentication, the procedure is explained in
    Section 3.3 to be "exactly the same" as in Section 3.2.

[authors] Yes, we agree. We can remove that part from the sentence to avoid any confusion. Nevertheless, after your comment, it would be worth stating that if the access to any other resource requires OSCORE protection can use the generated OSCORE context. Does it sound reasonable?

[GS] Yes, the established security context can be used between other resources if allowed by the application's security policy. Proposed rephrasing of step 8:

OLD

  "The IoT Device answers with '2.04 Changed' if the EAP
      authentication is a success and the verification of the "POST"
      protected with OSCORE in Step 7 is correctly verified.  The
      communication with the last resource (e.g. '/a/w') from this point
      MUST be protected with OSCORE.  Any other resource that requires
      OSCORE protection MAY be protected with this OSCORE security
      context."
NEW
  "If the EAPauthentication and the verification of the OSCORE protected "POST"in Step 7 is successful, thenthe IoT Device answers with an OSCORE protected '2.04 Changed'. From this point on, the communication with the last resource (e.g. '/a/w') MUST be protected with OSCORE. If allowed by application policy, sameOSCORE securitycontextMAY be use to protect communication toother resources between the same endpoints."

----

Another editorial comment refering to the recent update:

OLD

     "The reception of the POST

      message protected with OSCORE with Sender ID equal to RID-I

      (Recipient ID of the IoT device) sent in Step 2 is considered by

      the IoT device as an alternate indication of success ([RFC3748 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3748>])."

I would avoid the term Sender ID since it is all about verification of a received message, e.g. like this.

NEW

     "The verification of the received OSCORE protected"POST"
messageusing RID-I(Recipient ID of the IoT device) sent in Step 2 is considered by       the IoT device as an alternate indication of success ([RFC3748 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3748>])."

----

    Section 5.1

    "If the Controller sends a restricted list

       of ciphersuites that is willing to accept, and the ones
    supported by

       the IoT device are not in that list, the IoT device will
    respond with

       a '4.00 Bad Request', expressing in the payload the ciphersuites

       supported. "

    Make clear (here or in a security consideration) that in case of
    an error message containing a cipher suite, the exchange of cipher
    suites between EAP authenticator and EAP peer cannot be verified.
    For example, a man-in-the-middle could replace cipher suites in
    either message which would not be noticed if the protocol is ended
    after step 2.

[authors] That’s right. However, after your comments, we believe this could be improved. The reason is that by default we can assume that at least cipher suite 0. AES-CCM-16-64-128, SHA-256 is implemented in both entities. As such, if the controller includes option 0 in the list of cipher suites, the controller will not receive a bad request since at least the IoT device can select cipher suite 0 and therefore the authentication will follow until the end cipher suite negotiation can be verified.  We think it is simpler and we can get rid of a bad request. Does it sound reasonable?

[GS] Sounds OK to me.
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