On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 1:40 AM Alexander Clouter <alex+i...@coremem.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 05:35:26PM -0400, Alan DeKok wrote:
> >
> >> I guess the argument is that those are the labels that are used in TEAP
> (without exporter) and the same labels are used by EAP-FAST (with different
> method ID).  My main concern is that they labels are somewhat generic
> (session key seed, session key generating function)  which might lead to
> confusion.
> >
> >  It's a balance between that, and changing them to something different
> just for TLS 1.3.
> >
> >  Given the minimal feedback from implementors, I'd be inclined to change
> as little as possible.
>
> I for one appreciate the labels being made all the same; the
> implementations in hostapd and FreeRADIUS make it easier just just vary
> 'Type'.
>
> It also sets a precedence for future methods and maybe even TLS
> versions.
>
> Changing a label constant is less effort than moving from a PRF to
> TLS-Exporter and including 'Type' as context. I do not really think
> tweaking the contents of a label is an issue.
>
> When reading specs, I really appreciate the presence of a section on
> "differences to earlier versions" and this draft has that in the form of
> Section 2.1. Once published, RFC7170 will gain an 'updated by RFCwxyz'
> and implementers will find this information.
>
> Personally, I find the contents of all labels in RFCs meaningless and
> just treat them as constants that I am expected to push into my crypto
> key generating sausage machine.
>
> I rely on the *variable* naming far more than the values or functions
> that generate them. The variable naming guides me how to derive the
> answer and having fewer constants just makes this process easier.
>
>
[Joe] Thanks for taking a look at this Alex. looking at this issue some
more I think the labels mostly line up the RFC 7170 which I think is good
for implementers.  There is just one that doesn't

RFC 7170 label - "EXPORTER: teap session key seed"
 Current draft label - "EXPORTER: session key seed"

I think it would be helpful to make this change.



> Thanks
>
> Alex
>
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