I think the TLV should be flexible as to which options are carried, but there needs to be guidance.  The ultimate issue here is that we should, as best we can, consolidate administrative components. I also think the proxying discussion requires a bit of thought.  I don't think a remote auth server being relayed to wants to or should hand out local network parameters.  That's a bit of a head scratcher at the moment.

Eliot

On 23.07.2025 16:53, Alan DeKok wrote:
On Jul 23, 2025, at 11:26 AM, Alexander 
Clouter<alex=2Bietf=40coremem....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
For where topological information (eg. IP address assignment) is deemed to be 
within scope.
   I would argue that IP address assignment should not be in scope.  That would 
go down the path of replacing DHCP, which seems a bit much to do.

Only spit balling but maybe there is something we can instead do to extend the 
TLS binding to carry over to the DHCP.

This would then no longer be limited to TEAP, you could maybe even retrofit it 
to EAP-(T)TLS.
   TTLS would need to define a TTLS-specific attribute but sure.

My thinking is the DHCP client would then include an attribute to the server saying 
"I expect something binding here tied back to the TLS session of my EAP dance" 
and the DHCP server would include it as an option in the response. The client decide what 
to do in the presence (or non-presence) of it based on a local policy.
   Hmm... I'll have to think about that.

With this, you could now do topological (eg. IP) assignment and support DHCP 
snooping.

With the proposal TEAP options approach, there would need to be some additionally special 
OOB protocol between the switchport and your policy server to communicate these DHCP 
assignments and make DHCP snooping work in practice. Of course the other option is to 
leave this at "use this only for assigning the WPAD server" :)
   Yes, it would be useful to send these options in the final Access-Accept, 
too.

   Alan DeKok.

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