TY On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 3:46 PM Harkins, Dan <daniel.hark...@hpe.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Deb, > > > > I've updated the draft to refer to FIPS 186-5 and RFC 5480. You can see > the pull request in github here: > > > > https://github.com/upros/tls-pok/pull/34 > > > > When we produce a new version of the draft it will have your changes. > > > > regards, > > > > Dan. > > > > -- > > "the object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to > > escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." – Marcus Aurelius > > > > On 9/4/25, 9:02 AM, "Deb Cooley" <debcool...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > My replies with [DC] inline below. > > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 1:31 AM Harkins, Dan <daniel.hark...@hpe.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Deb, > > On 9/2/25, 4:54 AM, "Deb Cooley via Datatracker" <nore...@ietf.org> wrote: > > Deb Cooley has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls-08: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/__;!!NpxR!nodWFNbSD0KgYcavuVVK5XMx7bbs-zZYyFJFWXAsiBc_r4xZr2F6c_56zehzT0bBddPXT0UTnNd9z2Ye$ > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/__;!!NpxR!nodWFNbSD0KgYcavuVVK5XMx7bbs-zZYyFJFWXAsiBc_r4xZr2F6c_56zehzT0bBddPXT0UTnNd9z2Ye$> > > for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls/__;!!NpxR!nodWFNbSD0KgYcavuVVK5XMx7bbs-zZYyFJFWXAsiBc_r4xZr2F6c_56zehzT0bBddPXT0UTnIc4aA6Q$ > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls/__;!!NpxR!nodWFNbSD0KgYcavuVVK5XMx7bbs-zZYyFJFWXAsiBc_r4xZr2F6c_56zehzT0bBddPXT0UTnIc4aA6Q$> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Finally a specification I understand! :^) > > While these comments are non-blocking, I'd like to see them addressed. > > Section 1.4: NAI? [I'd add this to Section 1.1 > > Done, there was a similar comment received on this. > > Section 6, third bullet: SHA-256 is very suitable for this function > in the > foreseeable future (to address the review comment). ECDSA for > authentication > will need to be replaced when CRQCs are readily available (i.e. attack > in real > time is possible). - no change requested for either. > > Yes, but given that the largest prime number a QC has factored as of today > is, I believe, 21 (not 21 bits, the number 21) I think this draft will live > a long life before the required changes is necessary. But noted. > > [DC] yeah, yeah... but that will happen before SHA-256 is a problem. > > > Section 6 or 7: I would add, 'The BSK public key MUST NOT be freely > available > on the network'. Trust for this method is completely dependent on > this, > stating this early and often isn't a bad thing. > > Good point. > > Section 7: The compressed ECDSA key pair needs to be correctly > generated and > validated. I think this could be a simple statement with a reference > to FIPS > 186-5, section 6.2, while RFC 5480 covers compressed points. > > We are not specifying compressed ECDSA, it uses compressed ECDH. That > said, we should be referencing RFC 6090. > > [DC] I did a quick check of the draft and there are literally no > references to ECDH, only ECDSA. So..... either I'm right, or you are. > If you are right, there are bigger changes required. > > > Normative References: You also need a reference for ECDSA and > generation of > key pairs. Possibly: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/FIPS/NIST.FIPS.186-5.pdf__;!!NpxR!nodWFNbSD0KgYcavuVVK5XMx7bbs-zZYyFJFWXAsiBc_r4xZr2F6c_56zehzT0bBddPXT0UTnD8CMBnd$ > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/FIPS/NIST.FIPS.186-5.pdf__;!!NpxR!nodWFNbSD0KgYcavuVVK5XMx7bbs-zZYyFJFWXAsiBc_r4xZr2F6c_56zehzT0bBddPXT0UTnD8CMBnd$> > > Normative References: You need a reference for ECDSA w/ compressed > points. > Possibly: RFC5480 (I don't think RFC 8813 covers this part). > > I think RFC 6090 should suffice. Please let us know if that doesn't > address your comment. > > [DC] see above... > > > > > regards, > > Dan. > > -- > "the object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to > escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." – Marcus Aurelius > > > >
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