I support adopting TEAPv2.

While 7170bis clarifies a number of topics, there are still different views
on how TEAPv1 should work.

For example, wpa_supplicant has a flag that changes how it uses EMSK with
calculations when acting as a TEAP client (peer).
https://git.w1.fi/cgit/hostap/commit/?id=795075444fe847e11a04de541c95613335aad7a5

At the moment this doesn't seem to be a problem because there's only one
widely used TEAP client (peer) and this client does not have EMSK with the
EAP methods it supports.

To summarise: even if we have a fresh 7110bis document, I think there's
still room for more work which would much help TEAP, its current and future
implementations, and ways it can be used.

On Mon, 8 Jun 2026 at 05:07, Peter Yee <[email protected]> wrote:

> So far, I've only heard two strong statements of support and nothing
> against adoption. However, I'd really like to see more than two people
> noting their support before I'm comfortable saying we have consensus
> to work on TEAPv2. Thus, I've not yet closed the call for adoption. Please,
> if you support this work, make your voice heard and post a statement to
> the EMU WG mailing list.
>
> Thanks.
>
>                 -Peter
>
> On 5/12/26, 7:23 PM, "Peter Yee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> TEAP v1 was originally specified in RFC 7170. RFC 7170bis (RFC 9930)
> specifies
> how TEAP v1 actually was implemented and fielded. Here's our next shot at
> TEAP, TEAP v2, which specifies how TEAP ought to work, based on many
> learnings from our experiences with TEAP v1.
>
> As currently given, Alan's I-D is not written as a standalone document. The
> expectation is that at some point it will incorporate the text from TEAP v1
> that carries over to v2.
>
> If you would like to see this document adopted, please reply to the call
> for
> adoption with your thoughts. Expressions of willingness to review the work
> would also be appreciated. Of course, if you think there shouldn't be a
> TEAP
> v2, you're welcome to say that too!
>
>                 -Peter and Joe
>
> On 5/12/26, 1:12 PM, "Peter Yee via Datatracker" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> This message starts a emu WG Call for Adoption of:
> draft-dekok-emu-teapv2-03
>
> This Working Group Call for Adoption ends on 2026-05-26
>
> Abstract:
> This document defines the Tunnel Extensible Authentication Protocol
> (TEAP) version 2. It addresses a number of security and
> interoperability issues which were found during the publication of
> TEAPv1 ([I-D.ietf-emu-rfc7170bis]).
>
> Please reply to this message and indicate whether or not you support
> adoption
> of this Internet-Draft by the emu WG. Comments to explain your preference
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