Hey everyone! I wanted to chime in because I have been using P2s recently too (for both work and personal projects) and I agree with Fabiana's sentiment of how they enable async collaboration much more than wikis and email.
My take is that email puts a barrier of context and tool for people to join the discussion. P2s are literally an editable website, but much more friendlier than wikis, and without requiring you to go into source code mode to get things done. If you join a mailing list, you don't have the context unless you browse painfully through each email in the less than ideal views that mailman has. Same, if you want to join a discussion, you need to hook into unrelated emails, or risk restarting a new thread unless you have something "to reply to". On the other hand, wikis are very "read or write", they are not very interactive except for being able to edit pages. Not to mention that the experience can be intimidating if you are not a fan of source code. Notifications are a pain for me here too. It's all cool to receive diffs of what has changed, but I would give that away in exchange of integrated threaded discussion in wiki pages. Case in point: I got my social communication pals to use it in about 1 hour, where with wikis, IRC and email lists I was never successful in even getting them set up. P2s are heavy on context and meta info. You can put faces to people with avatars, you get to see where they have been mentioned, you can tag people, you can create checklists, you can archive static knowledge in pages. I feel like high bandwidth stuff like engagement would benefit from a high bandwidth tool like this. Btw, It also has revisions and markdown formatting, so it's like a wiki of the future. Simple, visual, context heavy. When compared to Etherpad, I fully agree that Etherpad is fantastic for meetings and simultaneous note taking, much better than fancier things. P2 is more of a "Headquarters" tool, a start page where information and discussions are kept. It's like mailing list and wiki mixed into one, plus much improved UI and UX. Also, it's Free Software on top of other Free Software :-). Anyway, wanted to share some ideas here and there. Cheers! On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Fabiana Simões <[email protected]> wrote: > On 23 June 2014 22:23, Oliver Propst <[email protected]> wrote: >> I would preferably want to wait so pepole have the chance to use and >> provide feedback on etherpad before we consider testing new tools. > > I think Etherpad is a good tool for meetings, but not for long-term > asynchronous collaboration. > > I'm open to trying other things as well, but I feel P2s are great for > following discussions, and enabling participation. It also provides a > much nicer experience in comparison to email. What I miss the most > right now is a good tool to keep working on the things we discuss on > the meetings, and keep momentum going. > _______________________________________________ > engagement-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list _______________________________________________ engagement-list mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list
