On 01/17/2012 10:32 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote:


----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim"<ih...@redhat.com>
To: "Jon Choate"<jcho...@redhat.com>
Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:26:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] the future of template cloning

On 01/16/2012 06:16 PM, Jon Choate wrote:
On 01/16/2012 10:58 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 01/16/2012 05:46 PM, Jon Choate wrote:
On 01/16/2012 09:46 AM, Livnat Peer wrote:
On 12/01/12 22:45, Ayal Baron wrote:

----- Original Message -----
We are going to be able to store the disks for a template on
different storage domains due to the multiple storage domain
feature. Cloning a template will still be possible, but will
it
provide any value? Thoughts?
I see no relation between the two options.

Scenario 1: I can create a VM with a single disk and create a
template from it.
I would still want to be able to clone the template in order to
provision VMs from it on different domains.

Scenario 2: same thing with multiple disks on same domain.

Scenario 3: I have a template with 2 disks on 2 different
domains
(domain A and domain B) and I want to have another copy of the
template on domain C and domain D

Hi Jon,

After talking to Michael Pasternak it seems that we did not
implemented
copyTemplate in the REST API, it seems to be a gap that we have.

This gap is playing in our favor, we can remove the copyTemplate
verb
and introduce copyDisk verb.

The template disks can be copied to another SD.
When creating a VM from template the user can choose per disk
the
destination SD (only SD with the disks are eligible candidates).
wait, when creating a VM from a template, the user won't get a
choice
will they? Won't the VM disks have to go on the same storage
domain as
the template disks they were created from?

yes, but the template disks can be copied to multiple storage
domains,
so the user can choose for the VM/disk which storage domain to
create
them from (per storage domains that have copies of that disk)
OH! I totally misunderstood. So what you are saying is that a
template
can have N number of copies of the same disk each on a different
storage
domain. I had thought that if you wanted that type of situation you
would have multiple copies of the template itself too.

yes, one copy of disk per domain though.


Just to be clear, does this mean that the plan is to phase out the
current clone template command and instead implementing a clone
disk
command so that a template can duplicate its disks individually?

pretty much, yes.
though i'd imagine 'clone template' would still be useful to have for
the user. not sure if it implies core should expose it as well to
allow
easier usage at UI level for such a task.

we can leave it untouched - means copyTemplate get 1 destination domain, and 
copies all disks to it,
but i think it will be unusable (and problematic - what if one of the disks 
already exists on the destination?),

then don't copy it, it is already there

what the user really wants is to specify which disks to copy
and destination per disk, and i don't see a reason to create a backend command 
to do it

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