I haven't tried the layout suggestion, I'm not sure I understand what to do with it. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have my own controller called called say 'mike'. All my pages need to have a header even if users are not logged in. On the home page I need to display the header and below it the login screen. Once they log in they should see the entire page including the header which will always be there. I have tried using <%= render_component(:controller => 'user', :action => 'login') %> at the bottom of my _header.rhtml, this shows the login screen where I want it but when I click on login button or Register for an account | Forgot my password links, it complains that it can't find action mike/login, why did the login screen all of the sudden pickup my controller name instead of using user/login. I can change the links to point to the user controller but not the login button. After a while of reading the Engines documentation and other wikis, I created an app/views/user directory and put login.rhtml there, created an empty user_controller.rb in my app/controllers directory. Then something strange started happening all all pages render as blank and I get like 20 pages of errors in my webrick window, I can't even see the top most message because there are so many errors. Not sure why that happened. For now I'll just stick with putting a link to the user/login screen and users will go to that plain login page and then be routed back to my page. I have also tried putting the user/login page as the first page and attaching my header to the top of it but I can't find the header because it's not in the views/user/ directory. So far the login_engine works great for me with the exception of being able to include it inside my own views. I probably need to read up and experiment more with it. Thanks for your help. Mike
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