On 06/08/14 16:24, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> 
>> I do not get your point here. My proposal is to operate the keyring
>> from a USB stick. What is the difference with operating it from a
>> smart card?
> 
> Exactly what I said.  USB is completely broken as far as security goes.
>  A USB device cannot be made secure.  Thumb drives are malware vectors
> par excellence, and with some of the recent attacks which work by
> exploiting the firmware things get even nastier and harder to defend
> against.  If you're concerned about a remote attacker exploiting your
> system from afar, you should also be concerned about a remote attacker
> rooting your box and exploiting the hell out of your USB stack.
> 
> Smart cards work by storing the key in a method where it cannot be read
> by the host computer.  Once a key is moved to the smart card, it ceases
> to exist as anything other than a black box.  Data can be sent to the
> smart card to be decrypted or signed, but the host computer has
> literally no access to the cryptographic key stored on the smart card.
> 
> In a USB model, an attacker who can compromise your box can easily
> acquire your private key: wait for you to plug in the USB dongle and
> make a covert copy of your keyring.  In a smartcard model, an attacker
> can't easily acquire your private key.

Does the recent news about vulnerability of usb devices to attacks such as
described in 'badusb' [*] mean that the usb reader into which the gnupg smart
card is inserted is also vulnerable to exploits ?

If not, what is the essential difference that would make a usb memory stick
compromisable but not the usb smart card reader ?

[*] /srlabs.de/badusb/

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