Hi Patrick, all

Am 2014-08-14 17:15, schrieb Patrick Brunschwig:
> On 14.08.14 13:41, Jogi Hofmüller wrote:
>> After a recent upgrade to enigmail 1.7 (Debian/testing) I got
>> annoyed by the "gnome hijacked gpg-agent message" and disabled the
>> gpg part of gnome keyring.  Now enigmail asks for my passphrase
>> every time I read an encrypted mail and even twice when I send one,
>> despite telling it that it should keep the passphrase in memory.
> 
> Why? You should only get the message when you save the Enigmail
> prefrences.

I figured that I "schould" only get it then, but I kept getting it every
time I started Thunderbird/Icedove.  The wording is also a bit strange
because it suggests that something evil is going on (hijacked).  Guess
users that read it could get overly confused ...

>> What's so bad about gnome keyring that all of a sudden enigmail
>> doesn't want to work with it anymore?  It worked fine until 1.7
>> appeared.  How are others handling this?
> 
> The "only" problem is that Enigmail cannot configure gnome-keyring,
> i.e. when you change the passphrase caching settings, Enigmail cannot
> reconfigure gnome-keyring (which works in gpg-agent).

Uh, well, then I underline my opinion that the wording is too strong.

>> Personally I would say that PGP is complicated enough and the new 
>> behavior of enigmail doesn't really make things easier ...
> 
> Why don't you set up gpg-agent or re-activate gnome-keyring for gpg?

I did set up gpg-agent now and will continue using it for a while.
Still, this is a big hurdle for users not used to editing config files.
 Gnome (and other environments too I guess) is doing a pretty good job
in making Linux usable for the masses.  Why should crypto hang behind
and make things overly complicated?

Anyhow, just my thoughts on this recent experience.

Regards,
-- 
j.hofmüller aka Thesix  >-<#!&$@@@?         http://thesix.mur.at/

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