On 16/03/15 08:40, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > On 14.03.15 17:39, Philip Jackson wrote: >> On 14/03/15 15:22, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >>> On 13.03.15 20:06, Philip Jackson wrote: >>>> On 13/03/15 17:16, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >>>>> On 13.03.15 15:45, Philip Jackson wrote: >>>>>>>> For this spontaneous change to occur, one needs these >>>>>>>> factors to exist : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. the 'To' field is in red type (with a red cursor) >>>>>>>> 2. the 'To' field must be completed and not left blank >>>>>>>> 3. the spontaneous change in message status occurs >>>>>>>> around five or six minutes into the creation of the >>>>>>>> email - the body can be blank or partly filled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could it be triggered by auto-saving a draft message? >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Patrick - you're spot on ! After all the years of >>>>>> using it, I didn't even know Thunderbird did periodic >>>>>> backups. I've never seen a backup directory in the file >>>>>> system nor in the profiles. However, it was doing a backup >>>>>> every 5 minutes. >>>>> >>>>>> I was rather inexact in the original description above. >>>>>> Only the different check box is ticked. The change in the >>>>>> displayed message status and the icons on the enigmail >>>>>> toolbar doesn't happen until I click 'ok'. >>>>> >>>>>>>> What I don't understand is why sometimes I get a red >>>>>>>> cursor/ text in the 'To' field and sometimes black. I >>>>>>>> can provoke a red address field entry by making any >>>>>>>> address incomplete but my address for enigmail-users >>>>>>>> seems correct and complete. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's Thunderbird behavior - nothing Enigmail >>>>>>> influences and nothing Enigmail could do to improve it. >>>>> >>>>>> True. But I still don't understand why sometimes >>>>>> Thunderbird considers the To address broken. The emails >>>>>> always arrive at destination ok. And it is not consistent >>>>>> for any given address. >>>>> >>>>>>>> But I do consider that a spontaneous change to >>>>>>>> established message conditions should not occur. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Agreed >>>>> >>>>>> The change induced by Thunderbird seems to be one way only >>>>>> : sign -> encrypt. It doesn't reverse itself back to 'sign >>>>>> only' after a further backup period. But if you reset to >>>>>> 'sign only', after another backup period, it flips again to >>>>>> encrypt. >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to reproduce it, but so far didn't succeed. What >>>>> are your account settings and other rules when this happens? >>>>> >>> >>>> My account settings on OpenPGP Security : enable PGP support, >>>> Use specific PGP key, sign by default, PGP/MIME by default, >>>> sign non encrypted messages, sign encrypted messages, encrypt >>>> draft messages on saving. >>> >>>> Nothing set under account settings Security. >>> >>>> Enigmail preferences / Sending = Convenient encryption >>>> settings, Key Selection : By Per-recipient, By email addresses >>> >>>> For this to happen when writing an email : >>> >>>> 1. Thunderbird preferences/Composition/General : check >>>> autosave (every 5 minutes), confirm when using keyboard >>>> shortcuts, check for missing attachments 2. 'To' field in email >>>> must be red. This happens at random for any given email >>>> address but I can provoke it by breaking the address. (I >>>> assumed the red indicated that Thunderbird considered the >>>> address broken ) 3. The 'To' field must have an entry 4. The >>>> enigmail setting for that email must be 'sign only' >>> >>>> Then just sit and wait for five minutes while checking the >>>> enigmail toolbar button from time to time. >>> >>> I still cannot reproduce it. Could you send me a debug log file >>> (menu Enigmail > Debugging Options > View Log)? >>> > >> sent to you at your address. > >> Apart from the Thunderbird peculiarity of turning the address field >> red (even though the address is already in my address book since >> years), it looks like the tick box flips from 'sign' to 'encrypt' >> when Thunderbird auto-saves a copy of the mail being prepared for >> sending. > >> Unless the sender actually clicks on the enigmail button in the >> enigmail toolbar and also clicks on ok, this autosave process >> doesn't actually affect the final email status when it is sent. If >> it was originally 'sign' only, that is the way it gets sent. The >> encrypt only affects the auto-backup, as far as I can tell. > > This should be fixed with the latest nightly build. > Looks ok with 16 March nightly Philip
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