I like the 'Attach My Public Key' button, its so handy where it now is... Ian
On 19/03/15 06:35, Doug Barton wrote: > On 3/18/15 7:53 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >>> But what percentage of overall enigmail users are they, and how >>> likely are they to blindly send their key to a keyserver rather then >>> blindly click a button to attach their public key? >> >> Try turning your question around. Consider if one of them were to ask, >> "But what percentage of overall Enigmail users live in liberal Western >> democracies, and how likely are they to use this 'send to keyserver' >> option rather than the sensible 'attach public key' button? > > That's a totally non-sequitur argument, as you're positing a number of > straw-men that I didn't put up. (You're also not answering my question about > what percentage of the user base these people form.) > >> Do we >> really need to make it easy to send keys to the keyserver?" >> >> The answer is, both groups are very important to us. > > I'm not saying that either group is unimportant. In fact I would argue that > people who are actually using cryptography for real, meaningful purposes are > far more important than the dilettantes like us. > > But the question is not, "Which group is important?" the question is, "What > should the defaults be?" > >> If you don't like the button, great. Don't use it. :) > > Well that's not only non-sequitur, it's childish. But I'll give you a > smiley-based pass. :) > > I have said repeatedly now that I'm not concerned with what experts can or > cannot do. I think the new defaults are bad on several levels, and will lead > to bad outcomes. > >> But we did get >> feedback from a large number of trainers at the Circumvention >> conference, and I did not hear one single complaint about the 1.8 beta I >> showed them with the "Attach public key" button. > > Sure, but again, non-sequitur. I would definitely expect that if you show the > feature to a group for whom the feature would be wildly useful that they > would approve. :) What percentage of the overall user population was > represented, and should we tailor the defaults for that tiny group? > >> As always, Patrick's in the driver's seat and gets to make the final >> decisions on everything... but my feeling is the "Attach public key" >> button is something that an important fraction of our users approve of, >> and for that reason we're not going to get rid of it. We might figure >> out better ways to present it or make it fit in the UI, but we're going >> to continue to make it extremely easy for users to attach public keys to >> an email message. > > It already was easy. There is already an option to attach it to every > message, and there is already a menu item to attach it to individual > messages. I'm not hearing any rationale for putting an attractive nuisance > button in every user's face for a feature that most of them do not need. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > enigmail-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
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