On Friday, 25 February 2005, at 21:19:01 (+0100),
Richard Torkar wrote:

> I'm well aware of that fact. It was not the intention to make the
> spec.in full-fledged to begin with.

And therein lies the fundamental problem. :)

> > 3.  Spec files and the rpm dependency engine are not equivalent to
> > autoFUCK tools and cannot be treated as such.
> 
> Wholeheartedly agree.
> 
> > 4.  Making spec file changes, like making configure.in changes, can
> > have notable and widespread results and should thus be done as a
> > conscious choice.
> 
> See point 3, since it's the same.

No, not quite.  #4 has nothing to do with package dependencies.  #3
was exclusively about package dependencies.

> > 5.  AutoFUCK tools generate files which differ between systems and
> > between builds.  If you have to change your spec file whenever you
> > build, you have issues.
> 
> See point 3, since it's the same.

Incorrect again.  This point is about the re-generation requirements
for various files and the level at which they drive the system.

> What I wan't to do, and what I believe more people want, is to make
> spec creation a first class citizen in E's build system.

It already is.  I actively maintain every spec file in CVS and
regularly build snapshot packages as changes are made.  Others help
out, including Azundris and Cobra (both on SuSE).

Michael

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