On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:55:13 +0300 Nir Tzachar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> > i think he was referring to using root-squash. it's an entirely pointless
> > option and does not make the nfs exporting any more secure (disallowing root
> > access to files like it would be allowed locally is pointless as if u are
> > root - u can setuid/seteuid or su to the user id u need then do your dirty
> > work - it just become more painful - that's all).
> we _know_ nfs is not secure. we have no other _secure_ option. we use
> nfs, and make life harder on a would-be intruder: the main concern in

harder? jhahahahahha "i need to access file owned by uid X - add user of uid X
if doesn't exist, or just su - username" and then do the work. its no barrier at
all. it simply makes system administration and stuff more painful :(

> our organization is an inside attack. since no one can close all holes,
> the motto is "make intrusion as hard as possible".  one such way, is
> using root squash.

any cracker who has gotten that far can get the few extra steps - its no real
solution. it just makes life painful. its worse than "security by obscurity". :)

> >  that was his point - its an option that may
> > mistakenly make people think their file exports are "more secure" :)
> we dont think it is more secure. we think it will give an intruder a hard time
> (writing 2 extra command lines _is_ a hard time....).

ahahahhahaha! well ok - you have a weird idea of security :)

> > you can use it - in a few minutes with no code changes. remove root squash.
> > it's a pointless option (as above) :) 
> not an option.

well patches accepted. :)

> > entrance uses method A for writing the
> > .Xautharity file ie write as root then chown. xdm uses method B - seteuid,
> > then write. BOTH are valid methods but method A happens to not work over nfs
> > with root-squash. since imho root-squash is a pointless option anyhow...
> > both methods are equally valid :)
> ok. end of discussion. 
> i thank you all for your answers and comments.
> if, for some unknow reason you decide to support method B, we'll be
> happy to use entranced. until then, we'll stick with kdm.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> 
> -- 
> =========================================================
> Nir Tzachar.


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