On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:06:10 +0900 Carsten writes:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:24:29 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > But no, that's not what I meant here.
> >
> > There are many canvas 'models' in the object types they
> > support and the event model they (may) use:
> > ....
> > ....
> > ....
> >
> > There others... and indeed we may even think of "ewl"
> > as a canvas.
>
> indeed - it isnt "the same everywhere" its a problem - but its also
> due to each
> system being specific for a particular task.
>
But they *are* also all the "same".
Fix where they agree, abstract where they differ into
functional variables, and plug in this result as a particular
value of these variables.
What do you get?
> >
> > Why do you have to have smart-objects?
>
> because makign evas istelf govern the policy of "if u move 1 object
> how do u
> move a group of them) and resize is stupid. that level of complex
> high-level
> policy shoudl be exportable to "smart objects" they have been
> overloaded a lot
> of late though :)
>
They are 'underdetermined' in the variablity they allow.
This leads to various problems, some of which have been encountered
already, others are lurking there..
One such is the issue of 'coloring' a smart object, as I've
mentioned to you.
> > > the important stuff is rto make sute the api can be
> > > expanded
> > > without breaking it in the future. some things need to be put
> > > off
> > > (at last off
> > > my own todo list) until others have been done. i have placed e17
> > > (itself) at
> > > the top notch of my priority queue. i only do things directly
> > > related to it
> > > getting done (sanely) outside of it.
> > >
> > > of course if everyone else things we should abandon e17 and just
> > > go back to
> > > working on libs for a few years... ? who's voting for that?
> > > (looking for hands going up).
> > >
> >
> > Shame on you for taking such a cheap way out that one :)
> > Truly shameful :)
> >
> > But hey, everyone knows that real men don't use *any* libs
> > to write their code - think of how much easier and quicker you'd
> > have had e17 done if you hadn't had to waste so much time writing
> > all those pesky libs!
>
> seriously though - there is a bigger picture at stake and it RELIES
> on use
> getting e17 out the door - with perfect libs or not.
>
Agreed, agreed :) Far be it for me to urge for a *Total Rewrite*
of e17... not if I value my life! :)
But beware of being married to past "imperfections" :)
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