On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:33:12 -0600 Brian Mattern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

> On Thursday 02 February 2006 01:39, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > Well to summarise it - here:
> >
> > http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News
> >
> > I really am hating systray. the system is awful. I personally would like
> > nothing better than to delete the itray module and never hear about the
> > systray again. its ugly. its impossible to make decent looking as it
> > stands, and its of dubious usefulness.
> 
> We all have to learn this the hard way, don't we... :)
> I tried making an e systray a few years back, and gave up when all the
> windows had different colored backgrounds. These days though, KDE icons (and
> maybe others) like to pull the bg pixmap from the systray's window, a slight 
> 'improvement', but unfortunately, not feasible with e17. 
> 
> I did run across some gnome blog posts once talking about a newer spec they 
> were working on. Instead of embedding windows, you'd actually get pixmap data 
> and send events back and forth. It included messages for actual notifications 
> through the icon (e.g. "3 new messages" or "Johnny is online"). 
> Unfortunately, I can't find it at the moment. I'll try to dig it up again...

I'm actually sending some suggestions to the xdg lists (where sepcs and stuff
get discussed) having explained the downsides to the design and implementation,
trying to push something that will work for all existing uses, create a much
more consistent look, feel and behavior (the tray managed draws the icons from
ARGB property data like netwm icons) and client messages punt high level action
info back and forth and the tray manager also handles "blinking" for important
messages or disabling icons as well as popping up the menu if you right click.
that way all icons will at least behave in a consistent manner as the tray
manager enforces it. so far theres positive feedback

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