On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 09:41:49 -0500 Mike Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > itray will die. after havign gone into the systray spec in detail - it's > > just incompatible with e17. itray as it stands will die. > > > > > oh well.. sorry to hear it. i'll just have to make do with ibox, ibar, > calendar clock weather monitor pager screenshot eloquence and slideshow > ;) kinda running out of room for shit... heard you were making a > proposal for a new revision of the tray spec to clean up the ambiguities > and (i suppose) make it more compatible with e17's goals.. how is it going? well after some initial kafuffle - i formalised the proposal into more formal wording... and everything has gone silent. everyone left and stopped talking about it. i think there is a severe amount of apathy amongst some peolpe invovled in such "standards". unless they outright deny the proposal for good technical reasons (and i will accept good technical reasons any day - i'm a pragmatist - i'm proposing the improvements also based on good sound technical reasons), i will push ahead anyway and push it as an independant standard - freedesktop or not. if this kind of thing happens it demonstrates the "freedesktop" standards are really just a farce as they simply are a place for some particular players (who write the specs) to write down their ideas and claim it as a standard that everyone should follow. if things move and are discussed - then the system works. time will tell. but in the event it doesn't - then as far as i'm concerned the standard is a farce and any standard we propose as our own and simply docuemnt sufficiently is as valid as an other - so then it is up to users such as yourself to pressure application and toolkit authors to adopt better standards and use them without wating for pointless "standards bodies" to bless them. otherwise in the end you users are the meat in the sandwich and you lose out - you have to choose - the wm or DE u like - or the apps u like - one or the other, but not both. > -- > Mike Russo > ReadQ Systems, Inc. > (212) 425 3680 x105 > > Random quote of the last-time-I-ran-bash: > Women are wiser than men because they know less and understand more. > -- Stephens > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
