Sorry but tldr

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:42:56 -0500
"William L. Thomson Jr." <[email protected]> wrote:

> Someday you may need to find a way to work with people who do not
> speak, act, or conduct themselves as you do. Though that does not mean
> they have nothing to contribute. Given the amount of issues, and lack
> of bugs filed on such. Clearly it is only hurting the project and end
> users.
> 
> Blocking is childish, is a form of suppression, censorship. Signs of a
> closed community, intolerable of others. Incapable of interacting with
> others who are not part of the group thinking. Not to mention easily
> circumvented. Making it a waste of time. Usually best to improve
> people skills and learn conflict deescalation. Blocking someone does
> not resolve any issues, but may increase.
> 
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-5a186f101276c3.66583890.jpg
> https://phab.enlightenment.org/p/wltjr/
> https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6221
> 
> When you do block someone cannot respond to open bugs, leaving devs
> hanging. Example there are others, not to mention new issues not filed
> https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6222
> 
> Since first coming to E back in March. With EFL 1.20, there has been a
> steady stream of new issues. Which is also now the case with E 0.22.x.
> I am quite shocked given many of these issues I did not experience
> with EFL 1.19.x and I am about to revert back to E 0.21.x.
> 
> Do you all care about such issues?
> 
> First off to address the last issue brought up when I left the list.
> Though I have discovered since I am banned. More on that later. I
> spent close to a month trying to figure out how to customize Text via
> EDJE that is coming from code. I asked numerous in IRC. The final
> conversation I had that on matter was with raster. Where others said I
> insulted him. I have no problem making that entirely IRC session
> public. Others are welcome.
> 
> The fact is the question I was asking was NEVER answered. No one gave
> me a solution or any clear path. I finally 100% on my own discovered
> the solution and it was stupid easy and trivial I could not believe
> the amount of time wasted, or that raster could not easily tell me
> how. Without going into a lengthy explanation as to design,
> engineering etc.
> 
> So without further ado... Custom text or other is easy!
> 
> In EDJE you set the type, 
> 
> For a label, set to Text in EDJE. Then in  code you do a simple
> elm_object_part_text_set
> https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/entrance/commit/4d4ce9c50a4029384a1e09a2145dfdc3dcc4ab4c
> https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/entrance/commit/4d4ce9c50a4029384a1e09a2145dfdc3dcc4ab4c
> https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/entrance/commit/7d4d39e4fe0f0914c903acfe7f68609190c0fbe1
> https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/entrance/commit/bdb719bc43dfee808e0ac7917ee19702525c8c78
> 
> I could not believe how easy it was, and that no one could help me
> achieve such. So I insulted raster in that process? Did anyone stop to
> think if I was insulted? Maybe if someone is being insulting they feel
> they were insulted. At the same time people can feel insulted due to
> many factors including different cultures...
> 
> Example, many in the US find some French people to be rude. Many
> French find people form the US rude. Its in part fact and myth any
> simple search will show. Now I have experienced this in my life having
> relatives who live in France, and Florida is a place frequent visited
> by French and French Canadians. It is just my experience in life and
> NOT an insult. I do not find it insulting if French say Americans are
> rude.
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=french+us+rude
> 
> Thus my comments, not an insult. It is a fact I have experienced.
> https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6221#102030
> 
> Though I am bothered by this having lived through 2 hurricanes in a
> year. Not to mention those that helped me the most were African
> American. Much less those in Puerto Rico. All Nazis?
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=charlie+hebdo+hurricane
> 
> Just best not to go there. The world is fraught with social issues.
> 
> What may be insulting to you may not be to me. What may be to me may
> not be to you. That is how the world is. Technical projects are no
> means to solve social issues. Social issues should not hold back a
> technical project.
> 
> I will make 1 other post outlining numerous issues. The type of thing
> you cut yourself off by silencing others. This stuff benefits you all
> more than others. Its finding bugs in your code. Usually people care
> about not having bugs in their code, being aware, and resolving in a
> timely manner.
> 
> Blocking and silencing people does not resolve technical issues. It
> will not help further the project, being a technical project. It will
> simply hold things back, and further fracture the community. Not to
> mention does not work. I am posting here, yet blocked. I have many
> emails, domains, and can create more. Thus its futile.
> 
> temp_account is me. I stopped using it, more out of respect and
> disrespect having my account disabled. I could be filing bugs via
> that. https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6221#102052
> 
> Being blocked on phab also cuts me off from pages I started...
> Love that others find it useful. Wonder what else I may contribute of
> use to others.... Now cut off so no more of that goodness...
> https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_apps_todo/
> 
> There is already Moshka and Bodhi. Which that community is responsible
> for numerous EFL apps that are not coming from the main E/EFL
> community. Do you want to fracture and create another? Or should I
> just go contribute to them? Its welcomed.
> https://github.com/thewaiter/Clipboard/issues/15
> 
> I highly recommend learning to work with those you may differ and
> dislike for the benefit of all. I think that is called being an
> adult... Kids take their toys and go home. Either way does not fix
> broken toys.... Or help to make things better.
> 
> I am not going anywhere. I will continue doing EFL app development. It
> is up to you all if you want a more inclusive diverse project or not.
> But keeping those out like me only hurts the project. It does not
> help.
> 


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