You all likely do not care, but for those that do.... I have given up on E 0.22.x on my dual display desktop, reverting back to stable 0.21.10 I haven't any major issues with. 0.22.1 is ok on my laptop but having to constantly restart E from main menu to get Firefox and other stuff to start rendering on screen again. At least no hard lock ups like I had daily on my dual display desktop.
I know for 0.23.0 autotools will be dropped for meson due to difficulty in maintaining both. If 2 build systems cannot be maintained, then how is both X and Wayland supposed to be maintained without major work and causing issues for either. Seems like that is already the case now. I must say for some 9yrs of Wayland concept in development, this is not impressive. Not sure if anyone has done the same under E. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=gnome-326-x11way Basically Wayland on Gnome is barely equal to X in performance. In a few cases X is better and in almost non Wayland is better. I am really not sure where all this is going, but its a massive amount of work over many years just to get close to equal. I am not impressed. If that same amount of effort over 9 yrs went into X. All maybe further along all around, GTK, QT, EFL, etc. Right now still seems years before Wayland will match X feature for feature and identical performance much less exceeding X in performance. Though I assume EFL/E does already, Test suites could show that for a fact in numbers one way or another. The focus on E supporting Wayland has really destroyed it for X. There are tons of X issues with things like copy paste, etc. Beyond major bugs. I know people do not care to address as they are looking to get rid of X for Wayland. Which makes X users second class citzens. Worse than someone wanting to keep E under autotools vs meson. Either way I am not impressed at all with those Gnome numbers for Wayland vs X. Surely not impressed with all the issues encountered running E under X. Which running under Wayland is not an option for me yet, unless dual display support is there now, copy paste, and other things I need to make a living. Technology is something that last without redesign. We are in some generation that feels we need to redesign the wheel. I consider the following to be true tech, as over many years it has not changed. AC, steering wheel, Unix (os x uses close to 40yr old kernel base), C Those things have remained mostly the same for a very long time, generations. That is technology. I am not sure if Wayland will last as long as say X already has. HAL anyone? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_%28software%29 Or lets toss init for systemd etc... How long was init around? Not even sure when init first came about. Before most of us were born more than likely... On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:40:04 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." <supp...@o-sinc.com> wrote: > I am not filing a bug report on list. I am unable to file bugs. I am > encountering numerous issues. > > 2. I updated Clipboard module to elm_cnp. I was looking to update it > to newer modules/gadget API. Though I am unable to. > https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/clipboard > > 3. Major issues with Bryce. When I add no wizard to add gadgets must > log out and back. Soon as I go to add gadgets freezes and crashes > E. It was more usable in the past though I have stuck with shelf. > Bryce issues prevented my progress on Clipboard module updating API. > Also stopped me from making a Network Manager module. At least not > using new API I rather not use old like others. > https://github.com/eyoz/oconnection > > 4. My dual display desktop runs away daily. Sometimes I can restart E > in time as it becomes super slow and sluggish. If I fail to in time I > must restart as it ends up stuck at 100% on a single core. On my > laptop windows stop rendering. I filed a bug on that. Those two > issues likely will force me back to 0.21.x > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6144 -- William L. Thomson Jr. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
