On 20/12/17 09:05, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:22:49 +1030 > Simon Lees <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 20/12/17 05:39, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 17:43:29 +0000 >> >>> I completely disagree! EFL is a total mess! IMHO what needs to be >>> done is EO and Wayland should be EFL 2.x. 1.x should remain legacy >>> and X, with rock solid support. That may also extend to Enlightment >>> with 0.22.1 has so many issues I had to stop using it. Still even >>> some issues from EFL now show up on 0.21 when they did not before. >>> >> Strange I have it running here and haven't had issues? > > Single or multiple displays? The major issues effect systems with > multiple displays. I was blaming terminology for some stuff that I > thought came from an EFL update and was bugs in Terminology. Must be > something in E as 0.21.8 is rock solid on my dual display desktop. > Both mostly dual.
> This can be closed or changed from terminology to E 0.22.x. This is E > 0.22.x specific. I do not ever experience this under 0.21.x, regardless > of EFL version. False report against terminology. Just triggered it. > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6145 > > I had less issues on my single display laptop. I do plug in external > and swap, but never have 2 active. I assume its related to 2 active > displays. 100% cpu, locking up E and system at times. I could walk from > my desktop doing nothing. Then come back to it locked up and must hard > reboot system. Sometimes happens under load, or just randomly when idle. > Also never seen that, I mostly have my laptop screen and an external display active but we may have different drivers, I think my efl is built with gles > Switching back to 0.21.8, the following issue remains and seems to come > from EFL not E. This is an EFL 1.20.x issue not E 0.22.x. I never saw > it on 0.21.x but I do now with 0.21.8 and EFL 1.20.6 . Though rarely > happens on my dual display desktop. This happens several times a day on > my laptop for GTK stuff, claws-mail and firefox. > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6144 > > I have not experienced this in a bit, but it was happening on my dual > display desktop not laptop. I can take screenshots on laptop. I assume > this issue maybe specific to multiple displays. > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6222 > > I could not use bryce at all under 0.22.x I tried with clean install, > no saved settings, etc. I was trying to update API on Clipboard module > to new gadget API from gadecon or what ever the old one currently used > by Clipboard module. I haven't tried since going back to 0.21.8, but I > think there are bugs fixed or better bryce support in 0.22.x. I can see > about doing new gadget API dev under 0.21.x but could not under 0.22.x > Bryce isn't done yet, which is why its not the default, i'm for the most part still using shelves, bryce still has missing functionality for me. >> Whenever we get to the point of dropping the legacy API the efl major >> version will be increased > > Sure and till then I would expect most to still use legacy API. Then > when ever the next major/minor version comes out. Can look to switch > from legacy to new. Though may need a transition release, such that > legacy can be fully removed after the initial release of new API. > > I compare it to like GTK 2 -> 3, or QT 3 -> 4 -> 5. Not sure why EFL > does not want 2.x, vs 1.21. It is confusing. Even Java has kicked those > bad habits with Java 9, and Java 10 is already in the works to be > released in March. No more Java 1.x, since the minor version was the > major version. > Probably because there will likely be new features in legacy that people want to use before eo is ready and 2.0 is done, having said that based off our 3 monthly release schedule 1.21 should have been out a month ago but we haven't frozen for it yet I guess because there isn't much ready to release. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
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