On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:55:00 +0000 Aleksej Struk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > And two more comments/question to those I already sent. > > 1). I open the wallpaper cfg dialog and I do not have any selected bg. > Then if I click the right mouse button on some bg, I get a context menu. > >From this menu i can delete/rename the item I right clicked. But, > i do not have this item selected in the list. So, without selection, > until I tried to delete/rename, I was confused and did not know what > will happen if I click delete/rename in the menu. Therefore, if the item > I right click would be selected I wont be confused by context menu at > all. hmm - though the right click would then select the item and then make the preview display it - i wasn't sure this was a good thing. what do people think? > 2) I still in wallpaper dialog. I create a directory via the context > menu. Is it possible now to move bgs(via dnd, or context menu) into that > directory without using *term? no. it isn't. that would need DND which the new fm doesn't do (yet). but when it eventually does - u will be able to just dnd them in :) > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:28:26PM +0000, Aleksej Struk wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:39:37PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:41:31 +0000 Aleksej Struk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > babbled: > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:16:11AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:16:34 +0000 Aleksej Struk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > babbled: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm currently compiled the lates E cvs, and tried wallpaper and > > > > > > theme dialogs. So, I have some comments on them. IMHO the > > > > > > wallpaper/theme list is too small in height and width. It is quite > > > > > > hard to navigate it, at least for me, since I have to scroll the > > > > > > list too much. For example I have 5 themes installed, and I can see > > > > > > just two of theme in the selector. My current theme is the one > > > > > > before the last in the list. So, order to set the first theme I > > > > > > have to scroll the list. Would not be better to make these selector > > > > > > lists bigger, at least in height? Then I think the navigation would > > > > > > be much easier. > > > > > > > > > > you do know the dialog is resizable? > > > > > you do know you can use "remember" to remember your last > > > > > size/location... > > > > > > > > Well, I know this :). Basically I tried to be as a newbeeee user that > > > > sees E first time in his/her life and tries to set a wallpaper/theme :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the dialog is small by default so people stuck in 640x480 on vga > > > > > screens can at least USE the UI - unlike other desktops environment > > > > > (gnome, kde, windows xp) where some dialogs - especially ones for > > > > > doing things like changing screen resolution - do not fit in 640x480. > > > > > you can't click "ok" to change resolution in windows xp for example. > > > > > > > > Completely agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these are bad design errors. thus by default we try keep our dialogs > > > > > within 640x480. you are always free to resize the dialog to make it > > > > > bigger. you can ask e to remember this for you :) > > > > > > > > Can be dialogs be smart for example? Maybe they can have their minimum > > > > settings and optimal settings. Consequently, if it "sees" that cannot > > > > fit into entire screen, it uses minimum settings. Otherwise, it uses > > > > optimal settings. > > > > > > what is optimal? i find that having the dialog as small as possible is > > > optimal as i keep the rest of my screen still to do other things at the > > > same time... personal preference. and seriously - how often do u change > > > themes and need a big long list - will you have 100 themes installed? i > > > am doubtful :) the theme dialog is actually no smaller - the left is > > > smaller - it can display 3 instead of 4 by default. not a lot of loss > > > imho. > > > > Well, I personally, can say, that the size of the wallpaper dialog is > > almost optimal. My arguing, why it is optimal, is the following. If I > > have set my wallpaper, and open the wallpaper dialog again, the selected > > wallpaper get vertically centered in the selector list. Consequently I > > easily see, which wallpaper goes before and after selected one. > > > > In contrast, in the theme config dialog, if I have selected a theme, and > > open the dialog once again, the selection is not get vertically centered > > in the selector list(at least for now). That forces me to scroll the > > list, if I want to see a theme before the selected. Moreover if I center > > selected theme in the list, I see just a "peace" of list item before and > > after the selected. Psychologically, it makes me scroll the list again, > > up or down, since I want to see those items in full. > > > > Btw, just one more comment about, I think, selector. I have the following > > situation. I created a folder A inside .e/e/backgrounds/, and put some of > > my bgs inside it. Then I set my wallpaper to a bg from that folder. Then, > > if I open wallpaper cfg dialog, it starts in the .e/e/backgrouunds and > > does not find current wallpaper at this location. So, there are no > > selection of current wallpaper at all. Then if I enter the A folder I > > still do not have any selection. Therefore, if I have 5 bgs in the dir, > > and the last is the current wallpaper, I cannot immediately see that it > > is selected. Basically, I have to options then. 1) just to remember which > > bg I made current, or 2) to scroll the list and locate it via thumb. > > So, from the user perspective, I have to "think" - what is going on, and > > which bg is the current. iirc, the ideology of good gui is "make user to > > think as less as possible". > > > > > > > > > Please do not kill me with arguments. I basically propose some > > > > ideas/solutions. > > > > > > sure - noted. though i think i will worry about this later - this i > > > consider fine tuning somewhere near the end of development :) > > > > Well, maybe everything that I listed above will go to a fine tuning > > later. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sndev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Aleksej Struk > > > > > > Master Degree Student > > > > > > Free University of Bozen-Bolzano > > > > > > Faculty of Computer Science > > > > > > phone: +39-0471-061749 > > > > > > cell phone: +39-3204627049 +370-61278908 > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - > > > > > > http://astruk.googlepages.com/home > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > > > > security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to > > > > > > make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server > > > > > > v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel > > > > > > mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > > > -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?$BMg9%B? > > > > > Tokyo, Japan (?$BEl5~ ?$BF|K\) > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > > > security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to > > > > > make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server > > > > > v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel > > > > > mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Aleksej Struk > > > > Master Degree Student > > > > Free University of Bozen-Bolzano > > > > Faculty of Computer Science > > > > phone: +39-0471-061749 > > > > cell phone: +39-3204627049 +370-61278908 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://astruk.googlepages.com/home > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > > security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make > > > > your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based > > > > on Apache Geronimo > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel > > > > mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ?$BMg9%B? > > > Tokyo, Japan (?$BEl5~ ?$BF|K\) > > > > -- > > > > Aleksej Struk > > Master Degree Student > > Free University of Bozen-Bolzano > > Faculty of Computer Science > > phone: +39-0471-061749 > > cell phone: +39-3204627049 +370-61278908 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://astruk.googlepages.com/home > > -- > > Aleksej Struk > Master Degree Student > Free University of Bozen-Bolzano > Faculty of Computer Science > phone: +39-0471-061749 > cell phone: +39-3204627049 +370-61278908 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://astruk.googlepages.com/home > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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