On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:51 AM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 06:13:21 -0800 Jose R R <jose....@metztli.com> said:
>
> > Niltze [Hello]-
> >
> > Just built EFL 1.26.1 / E 0.25.1 and (ugh!) at least two(2)
> > applications do not render correctly: textadept 10.3 and Yandex
> > Browser beta 21.11.3.954 beta (64-bit) for Linux. As a matter of fact,
> > YB cannot even be resized with the mouse pointer placed at the edge or
> > corners and dragged outwards.
>
> Try disabling the CSD decorations and use system ones (ie e's titlebar etc.). 
> I
> might imagine it is suffering from the same bug chromium had with new CSD code
> that does really weird things with CSD GTK hints on start then removes them
> etc. leaving the window is a weird state.
>
> > < http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-61d59ec2585370.20480341.jpg >
> >
> > Most of the applications display small letters for peripheral labels,
> > such as menu, tab names, etc.
> >
> > Chromium browser opens at the same size as YB and although I can
> > resize the window by dragging the edges and or corners, still the
> > small letters are bothersome.
> > < http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-61d5a3b1886327.98812052.jpg >
>
> Your fonts are huge. They actually seem wrong - they don't match in size to 
> e's
> fonts. They are larger and should be smaller to match E's. At least for me 
> they
> do match pixel-for-pixel - perhaps set your font settings in to to use Sans
> explicitly and apply to all apps:
>
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-61d5f44e8e4861.91846538.png
>
> Then you will get the same size and same pixels for your fonts...
>
> If this is too small - then it's too small in e AND too small in your apps and
> that is why scale settings exist - "make it bigger" options are right there.
> Advanced lets you set any scale you like. Basic mode has a few canned options
> for you. Any reason you didn't try the scale settings in E?
Fact is only some applications are affected, horribly, with small
fonts (I am squinting now typing under Chromium ;-).

If you ask me, Chromium, Yandex-Browser beta, and Textadept, can not
grasp the screen size -- or they do it erroneously -- and thus
initially display, fonts and all, at a suboptimal smaller dimensions.

Yandex-Beta
< http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-61d825158bc608.26754415.jpg >
and Chromium:
< http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-61d825c4155837.52624710.jpg >

Two E 'Flat' installations to two different Debian Bullseye instances,
yet both experience the same issue.

The first Debian Reiser4 where I installed E 'Flat' had originally
LXQT Desktop components; now, this second installation onto a Debian
Reiser5 had originally GNOME3 components. I had no fonts nor app
dimensions trouble with either of those Window Managers nor with any
of the previous versions of E 'non-Flat'. I *never* had the need to
mess with fonts nor app dimensions (except adjusting the font
size/pointer effect, in Terminology ;-) until E 'Flat' came along.

>
> > I had not experienced these GUI issues in prior E versions. Another
>
> Because now E sets the xft.dpi and xsettings dpi values by default to make 
> apps
> scale in-line with e's own scale settings. They match. That is the idea/point 
> -
> for them to match. So fonts end up looking similar/the same with similar 
> sizes.
>
> > thing I noticed is in a double-decked multiple desktops is that
> > pressing the pointer to the side, and/or up and down, does not take me
> > to the next virtual desktop -- as in prior E versions those events
> > succeed -- now I have to select the window with the pointer from the
> > task bar by clicking.
>
> Everyone kept complaining to me they hate edge bindings that do this so I
> removed them by default. You can add your own edge bindings back to switch
> desktops when you go to the edge of a screen in the edge bindings config 
> dialog.
Thanks for the tip. I *really* appreciated 'edge bindings' and hope I
succeed in activating those back.

>
> > My eyes already hurt with such small letters by now. I will try to
> > provide information on how I hacked the Debian packages as well as
> > upload the packages themselves later -- if I do not go back to the
> > previous E version to get some stuff done.
> >
> > Sorry to rain on your 'flat' parade, Raster. I tried, I really tried
> > to like it, to get used to it, but....
[]
As a matter of fact, I had not experienced font issues in GNU / Linux
ever since circa 1995, when I had to struggle to bring up the X-Window
under Red Hat Linux, where I was dual booting with OS/2 Warp 3 ;-)

O, yeah, OS/2 2.0 had also awful fonts; not small as in E 'Flat' but
just displayed awful. However, since we are in the fonts theme, I
hacked this CD bootable instance with a fixpack ;-)
< https://youtu.be/WYCFR-0N0b0 >

I will see if I succeed with E 'Flat' or I will plainly go back to
previous E and/or WMaker -- where I usually fallback ;-)

Best Professional Regards.

-- 
Jose R R
http://metztli.it
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