On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:45:44 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:

> On 6/9/22 23:53, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 22:41:08 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:
> >
> >> On 6/9/22 12:16, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 10:41:25 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/9/22 09:55, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 19:50:27 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6/8/22 19:17, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 15:39:17 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> actually wait - is this a laptop? or using ddc? dimming timeout set?
> >>>>>>> then the 30 sec may be the dimming timeout. e will run a timer after
> >>>>>>> that that then totally blanks the screen. this timer is cancelled when
> >>>>>>> the screensaver is cancelled (when the screen dims the screen is
> >>>>>>> basically in screensaver mode)
> >>>>>> It's just a laptop
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ok - that explains the 30 sec then - that's the dimming timeout. does
> >>>>> the screen dim automatically after 30 sec of idle input?
> >>>> No, screen doesn't dim after 30 sec of idle input.
> >>>> Screen blanks after 2 minutes (according to settings), but sometimes,
> >>>> maybe once a day, it doesn't blank at all. If i restart e, it blanks
> >>>> normally.
> >>>
> >>> that's odd. screen should dim. you have backlight support? does it work
> >>> manually with the gadget?
> >>
> >> Yes that's odd...I have backlight support and gadget in shelf. See
> >> settings in  attached file
> >
> > so backlight controls work? you can manually change brightness? does the
> > backlight dim after 30 sec of no input if you leave things idle? btw your
> > normal backlight is 5% .. that's really odd.... it should be HIGHER than the
> > dim level of 30%...
> 
> I set backlight higher than dim level, and dim works now.
> Maybe this explains why, sometimes, blanking doesn't work, but it
> happens randomly...

well now you at least have saner backlight settings (these are not defaults -
the defaults are 100% and 30% for normal and dim levels). the first thing you
should look for is if the screen dims after 30 sec od idle - if it does then
screensaver is then activating. e uses the x screensaver notify event fromto
dim the backlight (and screensaver deactivate to un-dim (go back to bright)).
once idle e runs a timer that then waits for "the rest of the time" until the
screen needs to go blank. so if dim timeout is 30 sec, and blanking time is 2
min, then e runs a timer for 1.5min. when this timer is hit then e will "fade
to blank" and fade out the rest of the backlight to off too. x's dpms timeouts
are set to expire a little bit after this "fade to black" (about 10 seconds
after as you can see in xset's dpms settings) so the screen will completely
power off then (but will appear black by this point).

so the first thing to do is to notice... is the dimming happening? if it is not
then there is a problem earlier on with screensaver notify events not
happening. that means either the x screensaver has been suspended in some way
(it was totally turned off - some apps go mess with screensaver settings - xset
q will tell you if screensaver is on or off and the timeout) and some apps may
take a screensaver "block" from x and ask it to temporarily suspend the
screensaver. chromium and chrome based browsers will do this when playing
videos - sometimes ads on a web page can cause this if they play videos.
youtube does it... the best way to eliminate this is to close your browser and
see if the problem continues. steam will also kill off blanking even if it just
runs as a service in the background and no game is running. this s an ongoing
issue with sdl/steam actively trying to keep the screen alive. in git i just
added support for a dbus service used by some other wm's and de's that does the
same as the x screensaver suspend/block feature - but it's asking whoever runs
the dbus service to suspend blanking/screensaver - in this case e will
advertise this service and it gets the requests. now e knows who asked to block
the screensaver and will list who asked in a submenu of the main e menu under
"blanking block". some apps will prefer to use this dbus service instead of the
x screensaver suspend extension feature, thus it may help identify the problem
too. you can remove that blank clock by just selecting it in the menu and e
will remove that blocker. like here:

http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62a2fefb1df8c2.44000455.png

it's very basic but enough to debug it. i'll make it prettier in future with
eventually a proper dialog or some gadget with popups or some shelf indicators
etc.

> >>>>>>>> On 6/7/22 22:24, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:56:57 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why, sometimes, screen blanking doesn't work on
> >>>>>>>>>> enlightenment.
> >>>>>>>>>> Most of time, it works but sometimes not. Before I thought this
> >>>>>>>>>> issue comes from intel driver (modesetting i915) but now, i'm sure
> >>>>>>>>>> this not the case because i get same issue when i launch
> >>>>>>>>>> enlightenment using nvidia driver (optimus technology)
> >>>>>>>>>> Conditions: enlightenment-git efl-git
> >>>>>>>>>> Settings:
> >>>>>>>>>> screen blanking  2.2 minutes
> >>>>>>>>>> DPMS
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> what are you running at the time? browser? does it have youtube open
> >>>>>>>>> with a video? steam? something else. various apps will suspend
> >>>>>>>>> blanking themselves... check blanking/dpms settings: xset q
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I run only Firefox and Thunderbird. No video inside Firefox, only
> >>>>>>>> blank page See e settings attached files
> >>>>>>>> I start e with startx with only that in my x.session
> >>>>>>>> redshift -P -O 4000
> >>>>>>>> numlockx on
> >>>>>>>> optirun enlightenment_start
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Strange: xset q shows 'timeout 30' but e setting is 2 minutes
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> xsetq
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Keyboard Control:
> >>>>>>>>         auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  0    LED mask:
> >>>>>>>> 00000002 XKB indicators:
> >>>>>>>>           00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    on     02: Scroll
> >>>>>>>> Lock: off 03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05:
> >>>>>>>> Sleep:       off 06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08:
> >>>>>>>> Misc: off 09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift
> >>>>>>>> Lock:  off 12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
> >>>>>>>>         auto repeat delay:  660    repeat rate:  25
> >>>>>>>>         auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
> >>>>>>>>                               fadfffefffedffff
> >>>>>>>>                               9fffffffffffffff
> >>>>>>>>                               fff7ffffffffffff
> >>>>>>>>         bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
> >>>>>>>> Pointer Control:
> >>>>>>>>         acceleration:  20/10    threshold:  4
> >>>>>>>> Screen Saver:
> >>>>>>>>         prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
> >>>>>>>>         timeout:  30    cycle:  0
> >>>>>>>> Colors:
> >>>>>>>>         default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0x0    WhitePixel:
> >>>>>>>> 0xffffff Font Path:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> /usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/TTF,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,built-ins
> >>>>>>>> DPMS (Energy Star):
> >>>>>>>>         Standby: 130    Suspend: 131    Off: 132
> >>>>>>>>         DPMS is Enabled
> >>>>>>>>         Monitor is On
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Maderios
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Maderios
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Maderios
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Maderios
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Maderios
> 


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