On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 17:39:06 -0400 "Rbt. Y-Lee" <y...@bodhilinux.com> said:
> The blanking Block in the menu Raster added is a useful feature. > > I have noticed some apps (vlc for example) use a slightly different dbus > call than the one implemented in the code. > > dbus-monitor output playing a video on VLC: > > method call time=1659900465.195458 sender=:1.264 -> > destination=org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver serial=6 path=/ScreenSaver; > interface=org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver; member=Inhibit > string "vlc" > string "Playing some media." > > Notice path =/ScreenSaver and not /org/freedesktop/ScreenSaver. > > VLC relevant code: > https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/blob/master/modules/misc/inhibit/dbus.c#L60 it seems to not conform to the specs: https://github.com/stefwalter/xdg-specs/blob/master/idle-inhibit/org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.xml maybe this was some old version of the spec before becoming a spec? i don't know. i can make e hook up dbus api's for both paths. > I also note that as far as I can tell Gnome checks for both dbus paths: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/blob/master/plugins/screensaver-proxy/gsd-screensaver-proxy-manager.c#L125 > > (NOTE: I do not use gnome nor do I make it a habit of reading that code > base, just stumbled across that as it is linked to in the freedesktop specs > for org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver) > > Perhaps e should also check for both dbus messages so that VLC shows up in > the blanking menu list when it is active. Whether it is right or wrong for > VLC and other problematic apps to use path=/ScreenSaver in this dbus call. > Seems a little odd to me but VLC is a very common and widely used > application. > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 4:23 AM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:45:44 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > > > > > On 6/9/22 23:53, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 22:41:08 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > > > > > > > >> On 6/9/22 12:16, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 10:41:25 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > > > >>> > > > >>>> On 6/9/22 09:55, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > >>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 19:50:27 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On 6/8/22 19:17, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 15:39:17 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> actually wait - is this a laptop? or using ddc? dimming timeout > > set? > > > >>>>>>> then the 30 sec may be the dimming timeout. e will run a timer > > after > > > >>>>>>> that that then totally blanks the screen. this timer is > > cancelled when > > > >>>>>>> the screensaver is cancelled (when the screen dims the screen is > > > >>>>>>> basically in screensaver mode) > > > >>>>>> It's just a laptop > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ok - that explains the 30 sec then - that's the dimming timeout. > > does > > > >>>>> the screen dim automatically after 30 sec of idle input? > > > >>>> No, screen doesn't dim after 30 sec of idle input. > > > >>>> Screen blanks after 2 minutes (according to settings), but > > sometimes, > > > >>>> maybe once a day, it doesn't blank at all. If i restart e, it blanks > > > >>>> normally. > > > >>> > > > >>> that's odd. screen should dim. you have backlight support? does it > > work > > > >>> manually with the gadget? > > > >> > > > >> Yes that's odd...I have backlight support and gadget in shelf. See > > > >> settings in attached file > > > > > > > > so backlight controls work? you can manually change brightness? does > > the > > > > backlight dim after 30 sec of no input if you leave things idle? btw > > your > > > > normal backlight is 5% .. that's really odd.... it should be HIGHER > > than the > > > > dim level of 30%... > > > > > > I set backlight higher than dim level, and dim works now. > > > Maybe this explains why, sometimes, blanking doesn't work, but it > > > happens randomly... > > > > well now you at least have saner backlight settings (these are not > > defaults - > > the defaults are 100% and 30% for normal and dim levels). the first thing > > you > > should look for is if the screen dims after 30 sec od idle - if it does > > then > > screensaver is then activating. e uses the x screensaver notify event > > fromto > > dim the backlight (and screensaver deactivate to un-dim (go back to > > bright)). > > once idle e runs a timer that then waits for "the rest of the time" until > > the > > screen needs to go blank. so if dim timeout is 30 sec, and blanking time > > is 2 > > min, then e runs a timer for 1.5min. when this timer is hit then e will > > "fade > > to blank" and fade out the rest of the backlight to off too. x's dpms > > timeouts > > are set to expire a little bit after this "fade to black" (about 10 seconds > > after as you can see in xset's dpms settings) so the screen will completely > > power off then (but will appear black by this point). > > > > so the first thing to do is to notice... is the dimming happening? if it > > is not > > then there is a problem earlier on with screensaver notify events not > > happening. that means either the x screensaver has been suspended in some > > way > > (it was totally turned off - some apps go mess with screensaver settings - > > xset > > q will tell you if screensaver is on or off and the timeout) and some apps > > may > > take a screensaver "block" from x and ask it to temporarily suspend the > > screensaver. chromium and chrome based browsers will do this when playing > > videos - sometimes ads on a web page can cause this if they play videos. > > youtube does it... the best way to eliminate this is to close your browser > > and > > see if the problem continues. steam will also kill off blanking even if it > > just > > runs as a service in the background and no game is running. this s an > > ongoing > > issue with sdl/steam actively trying to keep the screen alive. in git i > > just > > added support for a dbus service used by some other wm's and de's that > > does the > > same as the x screensaver suspend/block feature - but it's asking whoever > > runs > > the dbus service to suspend blanking/screensaver - in this case e will > > advertise this service and it gets the requests. now e knows who asked to > > block > > the screensaver and will list who asked in a submenu of the main e menu > > under > > "blanking block". some apps will prefer to use this dbus service instead > > of the > > x screensaver suspend extension feature, thus it may help identify the > > problem > > too. you can remove that blank clock by just selecting it in the menu and e > > will remove that blocker. like here: > > > > http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62a2fefb1df8c2.44000455.png > > > > it's very basic but enough to debug it. i'll make it prettier in future > > with > > eventually a proper dialog or some gadget with popups or some shelf > > indicators > > etc. > > > > > >>>>>>>> On 6/7/22 22:24, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:56:57 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi > > > >>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why, sometimes, screen blanking doesn't > > work on > > > >>>>>>>>>> enlightenment. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Most of time, it works but sometimes not. Before I thought > > this > > > >>>>>>>>>> issue comes from intel driver (modesetting i915) but now, i'm > > sure > > > >>>>>>>>>> this not the case because i get same issue when i launch > > > >>>>>>>>>> enlightenment using nvidia driver (optimus technology) > > > >>>>>>>>>> Conditions: enlightenment-git efl-git > > > >>>>>>>>>> Settings: > > > >>>>>>>>>> screen blanking 2.2 minutes > > > >>>>>>>>>> DPMS > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> what are you running at the time? browser? does it have > > youtube open > > > >>>>>>>>> with a video? steam? something else. various apps will suspend > > > >>>>>>>>> blanking themselves... check blanking/dpms settings: xset q > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> I run only Firefox and Thunderbird. No video inside Firefox, > > only > > > >>>>>>>> blank page See e settings attached files > > > >>>>>>>> I start e with startx with only that in my x.session > > > >>>>>>>> redshift -P -O 4000 > > > >>>>>>>> numlockx on > > > >>>>>>>> optirun enlightenment_start > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Strange: xset q shows 'timeout 30' but e setting is 2 minutes > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> xsetq > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Keyboard Control: > > > >>>>>>>> auto repeat: on key click percent: 0 LED mask: > > > >>>>>>>> 00000002 XKB indicators: > > > >>>>>>>> 00: Caps Lock: off 01: Num Lock: on 02: > > Scroll > > > >>>>>>>> Lock: off 03: Compose: off 04: Kana: off 05: > > > >>>>>>>> Sleep: off 06: Suspend: off 07: Mute: off > > 08: > > > >>>>>>>> Misc: off 09: Mail: off 10: Charging: off 11: > > Shift > > > >>>>>>>> Lock: off 12: Group 2: off 13: Mouse Keys: off > > > >>>>>>>> auto repeat delay: 660 repeat rate: 25 > > > >>>>>>>> auto repeating keys: 00ffffffdffffbbf > > > >>>>>>>> fadfffefffedffff > > > >>>>>>>> 9fffffffffffffff > > > >>>>>>>> fff7ffffffffffff > > > >>>>>>>> bell percent: 50 bell pitch: 400 bell > > duration: 100 > > > >>>>>>>> Pointer Control: > > > >>>>>>>> acceleration: 20/10 threshold: 4 > > > >>>>>>>> Screen Saver: > > > >>>>>>>> prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes > > > >>>>>>>> timeout: 30 cycle: 0 > > > >>>>>>>> Colors: > > > >>>>>>>> default colormap: 0x20 BlackPixel: 0x0 > > WhitePixel: > > > >>>>>>>> 0xffffff Font Path: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > /usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/TTF,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,built-ins > > > >>>>>>>> DPMS (Energy Star): > > > >>>>>>>> Standby: 130 Suspend: 131 Off: 132 > > > >>>>>>>> DPMS is Enabled > > > >>>>>>>> Monitor is On > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>> Maderios > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> Maderios > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Maderios > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Maderios > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Maderios > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
