Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:36 +0100 Essien Ita Essien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > >> Essien Ita Essien wrote: >> >>> Eugen Minciu wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:31:04 +0900 >>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> My entrance is built on September 11th and I don't have this problem. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps you narrow it down. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Ok... found it after a few minutes of poking around web-cvs. >>> >>> Actually, the problem came in with the shell utilization patches... >>> http://e.kevb.net/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/e17/apps/entrance/src/client/entrance_session.c?r1=1.85&r2=1.86&sortby=date >>> >>> Now that I've identified it. It will be fixed soonest. >>> >>> >> all fixed now. >> >> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ >> COMMAND >> 1955 root 15 0 6952 1936 1528 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.04 >> entranced >> 16418 root 16 0 2008 712 576 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.80 >> entrance_login >> 16429 essiene 16 0 18532 8064 724 S 0.0 1.6 0:00.00 >> entrance >> 16430 essiene 15 0 23592 17m 4260 S 0.0 3.4 0:05.05 >> enlightenment >> >> booyaa!! >> >> I'll be more carefull in reviewing patches in future. >> > > actually not all fixed. 1 entrance process floating around. there's no need > for > it to hang about like a bad smell. :) i am pretty damn sure that when i fixed > it before entrance spawned off the user's login session then REPLACED itself > with entrance_login so it became small and unobtrusive. there were not 2 > entrances and entrance became entrance_login :) i'm pretty damn sure that's > how > it was... :) > I was wondering about that... I think I see where that is coming from. > >> Cheers, >> Essien >> >>> Cheers, >>> Essien >>> >>> >>>>> OK - a quick check today: >>>>> >>>>> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND >>>>> 4183 root 15 0 79712 28m 5216 S 0 2.9 0:35.94 Xorg >>>>> 9385 raster 15 0 106m 21m 11m S 0 2.1 0:03.04 sylpheed >>>>> 4189 root 16 0 65112 13m 3060 S 0 1.3 0:04.72 entrance >>>>> 4600 raster 16 0 65112 11m 704 S 0 1.1 0:00.00 entrance >>>>> 4601 raster 15 0 70988 9604 3984 S 0 0.9 1:50.63 enlightenm >>>>> 4168 root 16 0 41956 1248 860 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 entranced >>>>> >>>>> ... now yes - i know how top and ps can lie - BUT, i only now JUST >>>>> noticed - someone has removed my work of using entrance_login. ie >>>>> entranced spawns (and manages) X and entrance (entrance is the gui front >>>>> end). when you authenticate >>>>> - entrance runs the login session. in order to make sure that when your >>>>> login ends everything is cleaned up login-wise, entrance_login sits and >>>>> waits for the user's login to end. entrance_login is small - it uses no >>>>> efl libs. it is intended to be so small as to use very little ram while >>>>> you are logged in. this seems to have been thrown out the window now with >>>>> entrance spawning 2 incarnations of itself and just siting around hogging >>>>> stale unused memory that will eventually need to be swapped out - while a >>>>> user is logged in. >>>>> >>>>> why was this removed? why suddenly consume about 20MB worth of resident >>>>> pages of ram when this is really not needed? just exec() entrance_login >>>>> so it replaces the entrance process with a brand new one that has no >>>>> allocated memory, fragmented pages etc. if any housekeeping needs to be >>>>> added - add it to entrance_login and pass it in via cmd-line, stdin or >>>>> something. as it stands entrance is hogging a huge amount of memory for >>>>> no useful purpose. entranced should stick around - and really - it's not >>>>> fat at all (400k of resident pages or so). look at the above - >>>>> enlightenment is leaner than entrance - by < 50% mem use. and entrance >>>>> should be doing NOTHING - it should be idle and consuming basically no >>>>> resources as it's only waiting for my login session to end. >>>>> >>>>> now - this brings me to my point. people need to think about what they are >>>>> patching and changing - not just in terms of features, but what they might >>>>> break, destroy and then bloat-up. this isn't gnome people. we CARE about >>>>> resource usage. if you are going to use ram or cpu - do it for a reason - >>>>> get something out of it (functionality, prettiness, etc.) but profile >>>>> your work - check its memory usage, check its process spawning - do the >>>>> processes go away? so you leave them hanging around consuming precious >>>>> ram and/or cpu. >>>>> >>>>> pay attention to the details. details make the difference between a $1 >>>>> piece of plastic imitation junk churned out by a chinese factory and a >>>>> masterpiece of craftsmanship. >>>>> >>>>> i am sorry to have to say this - but i'm disappointed to see lax work like >>>>> this. :( >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- >>>>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> 裸好多 >>>>> Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Take Surveys. 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