On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:59:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:22:36 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > Note: This email is mostly directed towards raster/dj2, but if > > anyone else feels like commenting, knock yourself out. > > > > Didn't want to just commit this stuff, but I went through and > > cleaned up the HTML/PHP/CSS of the new website. I've attached a > > diff so you can look at the changes made and possibly apply them > > yourself to see the difference. As I've done it the site looks > > exactly the same as it does not, but validates as XHTML 1.1 > > i actually had to remove the doctype xml stuff - it was causing > firefox and opera to basically fuck up tables. :( i could find no way > around this. > > > The following is a mini changelog to justify some of the changes: > > 1. Should use echo over print unless you need the return status of > > print > > - Small issue, but small issues add up > > ummm ok. > > > 2. include_once incurs extra overhead of checking for existing > > includes > > - It is not necessary for us since we only include the file > > once. Again, small issues add up. > > ok > I agree the above things were not really important, probably didn't really need to be changed. > > 3. Anything between style or script tags should be HTML commented > > 4. align is not a valid css property > > 5. // is not a valid CSS commenting style, must use /* */ > > but i like //!!! :) > I agree :) > > 6. Other misc cleanups/fixes, see diff > > 7. Finally, lets do our part and be XHTML 1.1 compliant :) > > much of a muchness really. as above - had to disable the doctype. > Unfortunate, but with the recent rush of content I'm gonna just let this go since I'm not sure if any one else is worrying about it :) > > Let me know if you disagree with anything and I'll attempt to > > justify it or you just might convince me :). It didn't really take > > that long to convert it so if you don't care I guess i can accept > > that, but I did all the work in hopes that you would use it :). > > Everything seems kosher in IE6, but final checking will have to be > > done when its up. > > > > As further justification I will say that in the future, most > > browsers will probably move towards attempting to support more of > > the standards > > as long as microsoft are behind ie - a huge chunk of browser users > wont see this. :( > Well, IE7 has come a long way from IE6. Most of the general stuff now works so there isn't a need for a lot of workarounds. IE6 loses more users every month according to most statistics, some showing less then 50% market share, so hopefully the pain it causes will diminish before the end of the year :) > > and those sites left not using them will have to fix things > > constantly. They may even break things at different times leaving > > you updating for every browser release. The reason XHTML is so > > important is because it can potentially make the browser so much > > faster and correct because the syntax is more regular. HTML is so > > irregular and every browser implements some of their own > > irregularities as well. So my point is, we are not only helping > > push the standards that exist, but we are also saving ourselves > > from pain in the future. > > except we introduced pain. table rows seem to get a minimum height of > a line of text - they cant be thinner when in xhtml mode. thats just > wrong. > Well you gotta do what you gotta do, did you happen to try the line-height property? Regardless, things are moving a bit too fast at this point to keep up so I think I'll just let it go. Things can always be fixed up later on if there are serious issues. > > Not trying to push any agenda here, just voicing my opinion, take > > it or leave it. > > > > Last time I tried to send an attachment to the list it failed, so > > hopefully this time it will work. If not, you can get the diff at > > http://www.satus.net/files/misc/eweb.diff. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel