Evolve was just the thing I was looking for. Thanks alot Hisham, for
your thourough answer.
The suggestion Youness makes is interesting, but I would opt for
Evolve to have a plugin system, instead of throwing away the entire
lib (and many, many hours of labour). As far as I can see on first
glance, the syntax of Evolve is very similar to Edje, so nothing
really new to learn here. Being able to create your own custom ETK
widgets AND using them with Evolve seems like a sane addition to the
lib.
Marijn.
On Sep 1, 2007, at 7:38 PM, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Hi,
> This is interesting, but I thought the same as Marijn when I first
> saw EWL/ETK. I had an idea about providing some kind of
> plugin system for edje, where you can create custom types. I was
> more thinking of something like :
> part {
> name, "my_entry";
> type, ETK_ENTRY;
> mouse_event, 1;
> ...
> }
> part {
> name, "my_combobox";
> type, EWL_COMBOBOX;
> ...
> }
>
> and those parts would listen by default to some signals so you can
> interact with them (like a SIGNAL_EMIT "appen_item" "first
> choice"; for the combobox, etc...).
>
> Evolve looks really nice, but unfortunately, it's about learning
> yet another E library, and using yet another library, and a
> new syntax, and you're stuck with just ETK, etc...
>
> With the proposal above, it would also help us build custom
> widgets, so for example, you write a group to represent something,
> and in any other group you could do for example :
> part {
> name, "my_custom_widget";
> type, GROUP;
> ...
> group {
> name, "name_of_another_group";
> }
> }
>
> It would be very helpful.
>
> Hisham, maybe you should write some page with the listing of all
> the ETK related projects (etk, evolve, any other?) and show
> the %age of completion.. evolve seems to be beta (from the README
> file), but how much beta is it? can it be used safely? etc...
>
> I hope this will proposition will be taking into consideration, as
> it will greatly enhance edje programming.
>
> KaKaRoTo
>
> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 08:03:55PM +0300, Hisham Mardam Bey wrote:
>> On 9/1/07, Marijn van Vliet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> While reading the documentation on Edje, I was instantly excited.
>>> True
>>> seperation of programming code and interface design, all in a
>>> clean and
>>> simple way. Then I went on and read about the EWL libary, build
>>> on top of
>>> Edje. And all the Edje goodness was gone. In order to have
>>> prewritten
>>> textboxes, suddenly I have to write C code again, just like I
>>> would with
>>> any other toolkit. Is there a way to layout EWL Widgets just like
>>> I would
>>> rectangles and images with Edje? Something like:
>>>
>>> part {
>>> name, "Some_random_textbox";
>>> type, TEXTBOX;
>>> mouse_events, 1;
>>>
>>> description {
>>> rel1 ...
>>> rel2 ...
>>> }
>>> }
>>> ...
>>> program {
>>> name, "text_altered";
>>> signal, "text_altered";
>>> source, "Some_random_textbox";
>>> action, SIGNAL_EMIT "hello" "world";
>>> }
>>>
>>> .. oh well, you get the point.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards to the great people who though of Edje!
>>>
>>
>> Have a look at Evolve in cvs. It does what you want but uses Etk
>> instead of Ewl. You can do something like:
>>
>> widget
>> {
>> type: "window";
>> name: "main_window";
>> title: "Evolve";
>> show_all: 1;
>> }
>>
>> widget
>> {
>> type: "notebook";
>> name: "main_notebook";
>> parent: "main_window";
>> }
>>
>> ...
>>
>> widget
>> {
>> type: "button";
>> name: "...;
>> parent: "...;
>> label: "Button with an image";
>> }
>>
>> and you can also have Edje code right in there like:
>>
>> edje
>> {
>> #include "edje_code.edc"
>> }
>>
>> where edje_code.edc is the normal Edje syntax you are used to.
>>
>> You can use Evolve to integrate Edje with Etk to either theme custom
>> Etk apps using Edje, create Edje apps with Etk widgets, or if you
>> simply want to avoid writing C code to create your Etk application.
>>
>> Some screenshots here:
>>
>> http://hisham.cc/files/modular9_main_eq_list2.png
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/580107290/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/580430095/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/580430191/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/580430171/
>>
>> You might notice some of those screenshots have show you Evolve
>> builder, its a gui that allows you to build your Evolve files without
>> having to manually write them (work in progress).
>>
>> For a small introduction about Evolve, look here:
>>
>> http://hisham.cc/articles/2007/05/30/evolve-introduction
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> --
>> Hisham Mardam Bey
>> http://hisham.cc/
>> +9613609386
>> Codito Ergo Sum (I Code Therefore I Am)
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