On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:45:47 +0200 "Jorge Luis Zapata Muga"
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> Hi all,
> 
> I dont pretend to start a flamewar, if you do, please dont answer this
> thread.The thing is that right now, the EFL has arrived to a place
> where different companies are using this software, and several of us
> are working on a company using the efl (raster, gustavo, cedric, me,
> anyone else?).
> 
> >From a closed source company POV, BSD license is great because they
> dont need to give us anything back (fancypants example?); but for

fancypants is a layer above efl - there are patches... and believe it or not..
they have given stuff back! if we were lgpl it'd be the same. if we were
gpl...i know i'd quit as thats not the kind of freedom i like - FORCING any
user of a library (an api) to use your license for their application - even if
all they do it use your api, imho is wrong and the wrong kind of freedom.

we also can't go changing license.. you know that requires every author to
agree - that means all authors needs to say yes - and you need to contact all
authors... not likely to happen.

as such - you should READ the license (COPYING and COPYING-PLAIN). you will
find that the bsd license INCLUDES an advertising clause, and the advertising
clause can be met in 3 ways:

1. advertise (so you can be googled for)
2. email authors (so you can be tracked)
3. lgpl (ie ship the source to the LIBS you use, not your app. this would
include any modifications you made)

> companies that do want to build an opensource initiative based on the
> EFL, BSD is not so great, because their code can be stolen from

you do know - if you want to steal code.. you can steal it license or not. it's
incredibly easy to steal code... and never be caught.

> others; so whats your opinion on this? how to achieve an open source
> compromise and still be able to use EFL and develop for it?. In my
> opinion building a company around BSD license is not an option for the
> market, but GPL'ing libraries is not good as it leaves all the BSD ppl
> away, maybe LGPL?

that is why i kept the advertising clause :)

> Thanks
> 
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