On Friday, 25 July 2008, at 15:56:20 (+0200),
Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote:

> I think all the above points are frustrating , why? simply because
> *i* dont want that my effort makes others take profit and dont give
> anything to me. Of course you'll be proud that your
> library/application is used on something you buy on the store,
> that's great, but pride doesnt buy bread.
> 
> Again we are on the same discussion of "success", for you and all
> the "pure freedom" guys, what really matters is that you are the
> author of what is being used by others, that's why you use the three
> clause bsd license and not the two clause license, because at some
> point you want the recognition, and that's it. I dont think that
> kind of thinking fits well on a market, but that's me, unless you
> dont care on the market.

I think there are two points to note here.  First, the core E project
has never been about profit, and it still isn't IMHO.

Second, the EFL are exactly that:  Foundation Libraries.  That means
that they sit underneath other stuff, and they're useless without
applications that use them.  That's where the opportunity for profit
is:  applications, not libraries.  And contributing back to the
community which creates the foundation for your application only helps
insure its success and longevity.

> I think if your idea is to actually "do whatever with my code" why
> the third clause?

You missed a bit.  "Do whatever with my code so long as you give
credit where it's due."  That last part is important too, whether
attribution is in the form of credit or contribution to the community.

> For me the success is not how many people use it, but if im able to
> live from what i code on my spare time with my own ideas on not my
> boss' and of course being part of the os community, that's it, and
> bsd doesnt allows me that

BSD allows you to be part of the OSS community.  Whether or not it
allows you to make a living from writing code has more to do with the
company than the license.  I can think of people making a living doing
BSD code, public domain code, MPL code, IPL code, and of course closed
source.  The license simply isn't the make-or-break factor; it's the
company and the business model.

Of all the for-profit companies whose revenues are derived 100% from
software alone, I can't think of too many doing strictly open source
under *any* license, *GPL or otherwise.

I think pretty much everyone would like to get paid to do something
they'd do anyway.  That's the dream.  But it's very rare, and IMHO,
not something to steer a project by.

Michael

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