On 09/03/09 11:04, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:50:32 -0500 Nick Hughart <mek...@mekius.net> said: > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:16:52 -0400 > > Atton Jonathan <jonathan.at...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > new test made with liferea. I have drag and drop the icon from the > > > window's border into the ibar. A new .desktop file has been created in > > > ~/.local/sare/applications. > > > Now I have 2 files! > > > /usr/share/applications/liferea.desktop > > > ~/.local/share/applications/liferea-bin.desktop > > > > > > Maybe the window was not "link" to a valid .desktop, that's why the > > > ibar has created a new one. See, the both files name are different. > > > The systeam file use the binarie "liferea" and the local use > > > "liferea-bin". > > > > Yes, this is most likely why it did this. There was no way for E to > > match the original .desktop to the window as the exec doesn't match and > > there is probably not StartupWMClass in the original .desktop. E does > > some tracking on apps if they've been started via the .desktop, but > > this info is lost if you restart IIRC. > > unfortunately there isn't much to be done if e can't find a matching .desktop. > of course this can be improved to it finds them more easily and keeps them > (done already), but there are cases where it will fail. in these cases e is > creating the .desktop for u from the wm_command as as far as it can figure out > no .desktop file exists for this app. the only other choice is disabling that > kind of feature entirely.
Should there maybe be a dialog asking if you want to select an existing desktop file as basis? > > > > > > > 2009/8/31 Atton Jonathan <jonathan.at...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > Some times ago I had this problem : the .desktop file was copied in > > > > ~/.local/application. The result was an entry in the category > > > > "others" of the menu. I have made the test today and no .desktop > > > > files was created. Maybe the problem has been fixed some days/weeks > > > > ago ? > > > > > > > > 2009/8/29 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:08:11 +0200 Thanatermesis < > > > >> thanatermesis.e...@gmail.com> > > > >> said: > > > >> > > > >> > Ok I don't have read the code to know how exactly works > > > >> > internally but > > > >> what > > > >> > I see (and my experience) is that: > > > >> > > > > >> > When you drag an icon to your bar, it creates a entire > > > >> > new .desktop file > > > >> to > > > >> > your .local directory with totally new values, some set by the > > > >> > user and > > > >> some > > > >> > "automatic", but most of times they simply doesn't works (bad > > > >> > values), I have see a lot of different cases, most of them are > > > >> > applications that doesn't launch, applications that can't be > > > >> > added (when inserted to the > > > >> bar, > > > >> > nothing appears), wrong/null icon, etc... > > > >> > > > >> doesn't happen. i just dragged the gacltool icon from the calc > > > >> window to ibar. > > > >> before: > > > >> > > > >> 5:32PM ~/.local/share/applications > ls > > > >> total 68K > > > >> 4.0K audacious.desktop 4.0K start_nm.desktop > > > >> 4.0K blender-fullscreen.desktop 4.0K start_xdpms.desktop > > > >> 4.0K blender-windowed.desktop 4.0K start_xfonts.desktop > > > >> 4.0K claws-mail.desktop 4.0K > > > >> start_xmodmap.desktop 4.0K firefox.desktop > > > >> 4.0K start_xmouse.desktop 4.0K > > > >> rage-gl.desktop 4.0K start_xrdb.desktop 4.0K > > > >> rage.desktop 4.0K sylpheed.desktop 4.0K > > > >> start_alsa.desktop 4.0K xterm.desktop 4.0K > > > >> start_gnome-settings-daemon.desktop > > > >> > > > >> after: > > > >> > > > >> 5:32PM ~/.local/share/applications > ls > > > >> total 68K > > > >> 4.0K audacious.desktop 4.0K start_nm.desktop > > > >> 4.0K blender-fullscreen.desktop 4.0K start_xdpms.desktop > > > >> 4.0K blender-windowed.desktop 4.0K start_xfonts.desktop > > > >> 4.0K claws-mail.desktop 4.0K > > > >> start_xmodmap.desktop 4.0K firefox.desktop > > > >> 4.0K start_xmouse.desktop 4.0K > > > >> rage-gl.desktop 4.0K start_xrdb.desktop 4.0K > > > >> rage.desktop 4.0K sylpheed.desktop 4.0K > > > >> start_alsa.desktop 4.0K xterm.desktop 4.0K > > > >> start_gnome-settings-daemon.desktop > > > >> > > > >> the same. no change. so this doesn't happen. :/ well not in this > > > >> test case > > > >> > > > >> > My thoughts are: if there's already an existing .desktop file, > > > >> > original, good-made, with the correct data on it, with full of > > > >> > translations, with > > > >> the > > > >> > correct executable and parameters... why WTF we are going to > > > >> > change them > > > >> to > > > >> > something from scratch, bad-auto-detected, and mostly-wrong ?, > > > >> > could be interesting that the user will modify manually some > > > >> > values, that YES... > > > >> but > > > >> > only the ones modified by him! and the rest will remain > > > >> > untouched. > > > >> > > > > >> > Like I say, this gives a lot of problems (just try to > > > >> > drag-n-drop a > > > >> bunch of > > > >> > 10-20 applications to your bar and check all of them (icon image > > > >> > that > > > >> not > > > >> > works as before, lost translations, wrong executable command > > > >> > set, wrong parameters of the executable, wmclass changed, > > > >> > error-prone values, big etc...) > > > >> > > > > >> > There's also two reports by me from long time ago: > > > >> > > > > >> > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/365 > > > >> > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/357 > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanatermesis > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >> > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports > > > >> > 2008 > > > >> 30-Day > > > >> > trial. 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