On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:27:37 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:06:34 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com" > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:42 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:10 -0700 Michael Jennings <m...@kainx.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 23:43:58 (+0200), > > >> Kim Woelders wrote: > > >> > > >> > In my opinion the MWM hint is not related to EWMH, so I think > > >> > all that is accomplished is to fetch a potentially rather > > >> > large atom list which shouldn't contain the item being looked > > >> > for :) > > >> > > >> My impression based on the IRC conversation was that Eterm -x > > >> didn't work under e17 without this patch, and that this patch > > >> made Eterm more EWMH-compliant. If that's not the case, then I > > >> misunderstood, and the patch needs to be rethought. > > >> > > >> > This would just set the MWM hint and hope for the best. If the > > >> > WM handles it, fine (is there any WM around that doesn't?). > > >> > > >> Some user was in IRC yesterday complaining about a WM (e17 I > > >> thought, but I could be mistaken) that did not provide the > > >> _MOTIF_WM_INFO atom, and thus Eterm kicked in override_redirect. > > >> Not knowing about Ctrl-click, he assumed the Eterm was fubar. > > >> So apparently *something* out there doesn't implement MWM hints > > >> properly. > > > > > > Is this related to my reported problems with Eterm (and at least > > > one other app) where iconify and maximise don't turn up in the E17 > > > window menu when using borderless? > > > > yes, Eterm becomes an override-redirect window when using borderless > > option with e17, so its window is not handled by the wm in any way. > > I commited a workaround that makes e17 pretend to be mwm so that > > Eterm use mwm hints for borderless mode instead of going override > > redirect. > > Just letting you know, recompiled E17 recently and my reported > problems with iconify and maximize not being in the window menus of > particular apps when you use the E17 borderless border is now > solved. I can't really say if this change is what did it, bit it's > very likely from what I can tell. > > Now, if I can just convince the claws mail people to behave and have > their window go to the desktop I tell it to, things will be perfect. > lol I can tell you why claws-mail doesn't work. Try and put a lock that doesn't allow claws-mail to change it's iconified status and you'll quickly see why. For some stupid reason claws-mail starts up iconified and then uniconifies itself after startup. I had asked the devs at some point why they do this, but don't recall getting an intelligent answer. I can't see why in the hell they do this, but it's annoying. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
