On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio
<fiden...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio
>> <fiden...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
>>> Howdy!
>>>
>>> I, as Enlightenment's user, feel lacking of some programs, that
>>> consider essential for a normal user.
>>> In the top of the list, I can say that we need of a{pdf,image} viewer.
>>> I don't know if the most active devs prefer one program to see pdf and
>>> one program to see image, like evince[0] and gthumb[1] (I think that
>>> ephoto can be compared with gthumb).
>>> Or a more generic program like Okular[3].
>>>
>>> I'll wait for the answers and start the development (in my free time,
>>> of course) of this software (or, at least, of the skeleton).
>>
>> IMHO it's better to have 2 different, however the e17 file manager
>> should be able to preview both (as I proposed in one of the past
>> GSoC).
>>
>> The reason to have 2 application is that for documents you often focus
>> on a single document for a while, with very specific actions such as
>> search, annotations, bookmarks; while image you want lots of image
>> previews and quickly zoom into one chosen, maybe copy files or view
>> some parameters like exif (dates).
>>
>> These days I came back from a trip and thus lots of pictures, as usual
>> I used gwenview to browse and organize them... but it could be a bit
>> better and faster, so I thought of writing one; however I stopped as
>> I'd generate yet-another-unfinished photo-viewer application. Then I
>> remembered Enki and helping it could be the way to go as Watchwolf
>> works on it as well. Particularly I dislike Enki's UI, but it does
>> work nice in my tests (no tests with flickr yet), so you could discuss
>> with Marina some ideas, investigate some existing software and help
>> the UI.
>
> IMHO, Enki can be a overkill.
Why do you say that? It's quite fast.
I'd use lightmediascanner, but Enlil (used by Enki) is quite good as well.
Actually I'd work on some other ways to categorize the contents. Focus
more on it. One option is to copy Raster's color-sort used in
wallpaper2 dialog. Then add some filters (simple to use please!) to
list files of a given period, or some predominant color... and of
course use those for sort.
The problem with Enki is that right now it focus too much on the
useless stuff. For instance you open it and what you see? Pictures?
No, you see a list of libraries, something you don't change that
often. There is no keyboard navigation/actions (yeah, elm makes it a
bit harder than it should). And the text entries are all weird, as
well as the abuse of elm_notify for dialogs.
We could start with that. Let's propose some good alternative UI, then
you, watchwolf or someone else (maybe even I) can start to make it
happen.
Apple's apperture is a good example: http://www.apple.com/aperture/what-is.html
KDE's gwenview is another:
http://gwenview.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php?action=view&album=/2.4&pos=1
I'd focus on listing. Enki's already provide a cool (but ugly)
thumbnail list. Its image view mode is bad and slow, the Zoom slider
(which is inverted from what people are used and actually from what is
used in the main screen!) is too large, and the bar that show sibling
images is too small (it should be bigger or user-configurable). One
clear proble is also the context actions, right now using weird
elm_menu... no obvious solution, but if people think about we can find
out a nice replacement.
--
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
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