On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:31:31 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri <vto...@univ-evry.fr> said:
> > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:30:24 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri <vto...@univ-evry.fr> > > said: > > > > never used it. never have used it. any new tool WILL result in there being > > errors. so you're a bit optimistic. > > It's not a new tool (you didn't even check when it has been written > otherwise you would not say that). it's a new tool - i had to apt-get install it. hell - it isnt even obvious as to HOW to use it. moap changelog ... now what? diiff? what has a diff got to do with a changelog? checkin? checkin files LISTED in the changelog wtf? it wants to force us to LISt SPECIFIC FILES changed? hell no. changelog != svn log. it's a new tool. it will screw things up because it hasnt been used before and ITS idea of what is in a changelog will not match those that i think should be there. any new tool is going to not just magically solve everything with a silver bullet. you say it will. i disagree. > I use it (for Evil, Epdf, Edvi or Eps, see their ChangeLog...). > > gstreamer guys use it for years for example. > > I'm not optimistic, I'm pragmatic. > > > i don't see that its necessarily needed. i > > hate to en-masse fix 8 projects up and their changelogs - yes. things needed > > work. it's all in place now.changelog entry was wrong only because starting > > entry was wrong. > > and for future entries, you are 100% sure that the date will be correct > (wrong months or year, like today) ? You are 100% sure that you will not > forget the author of the patch ? The tool adds the date for you, there is > a big reminder (you can't miss it) to add the author of the patch, etc... > > As an analogy, that tool is for changelog what a VCS is for development. > (A VCS does plenty of useful stuff for you, instead of doing all the code > on your hard disk, sharing tarballs by ftp with other devs) > > But you just don't want to use it, whatever I will say anyway. I stop > arguying, i can't find more arguments (arguments that I find quite > reasonable). i don't want to use it because it gets in my way. i don't want to use it because it adds complexity to a simple "open changelog in editor and edit". i have to figure out how the hell to use it and make it happy. it's a learning curve when i am in the middle of something which i can accomplish much more simply. it's NOT a silver bullet. you act like it is. all it will do is stop me from getting something done as i have to figure out how to make it happy. > Vincent > > > > >> Hey, > >> > >> raster, you did an error on the date in the ChangeLog. Again, i tell you: > >> use moap. With moap: > >> > >> * you can't forget to update the ChangeLog (if necessary) > >> * you can't make an error on the date > >> * you can't make an error on the author of the patch or forget to add it > >> * you can't forget to commit one file (you still can forget to add > >> a file though) > >> > >> without it or without another similar tool, well, you can have these > >> problems > >> > >> Vincent > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! > >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > >> price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires > >> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
