On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Thomas Gstädtner
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:01, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:13:47 +0000 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>>> <[email protected]> said:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Recently I had to do a new install and that's the time when you
>>>> realize shortcomings exist :-) For instance I use Gentoo and we don't
>>>> ship gnome-menus or kde-similar by default, so the result is an empty
>>>> applications menu.
>>>>
>>>> Google reminded me of
>>>> http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_and_Efreet with hints on
>>>> how to hack around it. Not good if we're willing to release.
>>>>
>>>> Given that pulling in gnome-menus will bring in lots of unneeded stuff
>>>> just for a handful of .directory or .menu, why not create our own and
>>>> install it with E17 or Efreet? We can get either Gnome or KDE files
>>>> and derive our own, that is always installed and we default to it.
>>>>
>>>> Comments, suggestions?
>>>
>>> the problem is.. for this file to work it has to be installed
>>> out-of-prefix..
>>> so we can install it but.. we'd put it in PREFIX/etc/xdg/menus
>>> (ie /usr/etc/xdg/menus or /usr/local/etc/xdg/menus). you'd have to symlink
>>> it
>>> from there... but e's menu config panel and wizard will pick up these
>>> locations
>>> just fine. if we call it enlightenment.menu or such... no problems. of
>>> course
>>> user will have to select it in wizard or config gui... but its a few clicks
>>> away.
>>
>> I don't see why, user can install --sysconfdir or even append more
>> search paths to $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
>
> There are some proper ways to handle this:
> 1) Install to ${PREFIX}/share/${APPLICATION}/ and let the
> packager/distribution link to /etc/xdg/...
> 2) Install to ${PREFIX}/share/doc/${APPLICATION}/ and let the
> user/packager/distribution copy it to /etc
> 3) Use E's wizard to put it in ~/.local/share/xdg or wherever this
> stuff resides on a per-user base. This also would allow to use a
> menu-editor.
>
> 3 can be used in combination with 2 or 1.
Actually it is /etc/xdg/menus/${XDG_MENU_PREFIX}applications.menu
(/etc/xdg being the standard, but you can override with
$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS as well). The XDG_MENU_PREFIX is generally set by DE,
like gnome-, kde-4.4 and similar.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ar01s02.html
It should be always possible to edit per-user as the spec states that
user-local replaces the global if it exists.
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