> i see confusion and
> complaints every single day because of this push to use edje as the "way to do
> a gui layout" that is better done using ju7st basic boxes, tables etc. etc.
> inline in the code.

Now we have GRID as well :)
And I think "Do not use edje as a GUI layout (or use it less)" is not
discussed enough so far.
We've been using edje as a GUI layout heavily.
It's time to change things.

But I still prefer edje :)

Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Atton Jonathan <jonathan.at...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Amnell has made a general EFL first step documentation in french, maybe it
>> > could help you. http://louis-du-verdier.developpez.com/efl/debuter/
>> >
>> > If I can have 1 request about the documentation: explain to the developpers
>> > how to use edje external + elm instead of show them how to use elm in the
>> > c-code. I think it is very important if we want to show something different
>> > from QT/GTK.
>> > I think this tutorial is a good and short demo
>> > : http://watchwolf.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=17&lang=en
>>
>> Of course. We'll use elm_layout to place things as much as possible.
>> After all, we've wrote the external part to do just that! ;-)
>
> hooray. and complicate app development massively in the process. edje is there
> for when u want to get advanced, NOT for just writing your regular-joe apps.
> the app dev now needs to have a comp[ile setup for an edc file, install it,
> find it and load it all at runtime as well as have to hunt down a part name,
> find it and then finally do everything they could have done with 1 line of 
> code
> (that now became multiple lines just to use  an external edje file). they also
> now need to wrestle with a whole new language, syntax, file, set of keys,
> properties and so on that they don't know just to get a very simple thing 
> done.
>
> you are doing nobody a favor by pushing this agenda. i see confusion and
> complaints every single day because of this push to use edje as the "way to do
> a gui layout" that is better done using ju7st basic boxes, tables etc. etc.
> inline in the code.
>
> use edje WHERE APPROPRIATE. not WHENEVER YOU CAN.
>
>
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