On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:12:22 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:

> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
> >
> > going to have to kill off your dbus idea. reality is the pa dbus api is
> > experimental (testing branch). i'm staring here at ubuntu 11.04 - no
> > pulseaudio dbus service. as jeff said:
> >
> > <jeffdameth1> k-s: i heard the dbus interface is in a testing branch that
> > will be merged with pulseadio 1.0. so this will take some time until adopted
> >
> > so... the only way to make it work is via the internal protocol - bare
> > metal. unless you want to wait 2 years for it to stabilize, be adopted,
> > released and actually on most peoples distributions. :) hands up those
> > people who really desire to delay e17 release until then? :)
> >
> > yes the mapping of pa channels to the mixxer channels was cumbersome. i
> > fixed it up to "work" and thus the id + 1 thnig so null (id 0) channels
> > dont break stuff. as such the mixer infra doesn't quite cover everything
> > pulse does, so really u'd need an alternate ui and infra setup. you can
> > share the same gagdte and popup slider, but the rest would need to be
> > different.
> 
> PA 1.0 was released today... and what a shame WE avoiding projects
> just because they were not released, in that sense people should still
> avoid Elm and E17? :-)

totally different things. we implemented PA support not because we want to..
but because we HAVE to. it is FORCED on us as a result of distributions
shipping with PA all enabled and if we ignore it, some people end up with muted
audio, no matter how much you fiddle with alsa mixers. so our job is to support
the PA that *IS* there NOW, so we don't end up with large numbers of users
going "when I use E my audio is broken".

-- 
------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ras...@rasterman.com


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