Can't, I'm on short vacations reading mail at phone during bus times. :-)
if there were short patches I could ;-)

On Saturday, November 5, 2011, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:25:27 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <[email protected]> said:
>
>> On Saturday, November 5, 2011, Mike Blumenkrantz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:12:21 +0900
>> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:47:08 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz <[email protected]
>
>> said:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:31:01 +0900
>> >> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:34:31 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>> >> > > <[email protected]> said:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > I wonder if this should go in few days before the freeze.
Really,
>> let's
>> >> > > > put such a big thing in a branch and let it mature for a while,
>> merging
>> >> > > > into trunk after 1.1 is released.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > this thing has been going on for months. you just didnt see the
>> previous
>> >> > > patches i got.
>> >> > erm without favoring one way or another, if WE haven't seen anything
>> until
>> >> > just now then why would it matter how long "this thing" has been
going
>> on
>> >> > for?
>> >>
>> >> you were favored with some ecore_con rewriting just before 1.0... :)
>> > that was in order to fix a huge number of bugs, not add a giant api.
>> >>
>> >> you're going to have to trust me then. the code is pretty much dormant
>> unless
>> >> the feature is used. as such i've given it much more testing than the
>> people
>> >> who wrote it and spent basically 2 solid says worth of work making it
go
>> from
>> >> barely limping to actually working reliably. we have 2 more weeks of
bug
>> >> fixing to iron out the bugs.
>> >>
>> >> right now as best i know (please. i'd love to have other people who
know
>> this
>> >> around), i'm the one with probably the most experience with audio. i
>> spent
>> >> several years as a teenager composing audio tunes via mod trackers. i
>> have a
>> >> decent understanding of what sequencing, tracking and sample
>> manipulation are
>> >> about - i am far from an expert at things like mp3/vorbis audio codec,
>> but i
>> >> do know the principles. if there is a problem in the api design (which
>> is all
>> >> in edc - and its right now a tiny partial implementation of my
>> requirements,
>> >> there is more to come) then i'd love to have people other than me know
>> enough
>> >> about audio, mixing, sequencing etc. to actually say something. speak
up
>> if u
>> >> think u have audio under your belt. but as best i know, no-one has
>> indicated
>> >> they know this to date. :( so i guess as the
for-no-defacto-audio-guy...
>> i
>> >> say this is good as it has, api-wise, followed the spec i gave prince
&
>> >> govind - in its subset implementation. if there are bugs - they can be
>> fixed.
>> >> still have 2 more weeks of bugfixing. that's WHY there is a separate
>> merge
>> >> window vs freeze window. :)
>> > seems reasonable enough I suppose. would still be nice if giant patches
>> like
>> > this could get brought in more than a couple days before the merge
>> > window...maybe some sort of samsung policy
>>
>> Also, split patches for easier review. Okay, none of us may be as expert
in
>> audio as raster, but very small part is about it. In a way, we can act as
>> users of the API in the review, also reviewing all the other bits. But as
>> is the patch is a major dump that would be rejected by us and every other
>> projects.
>>
>> I hope raster understands our points.
>
> oh don't get nme wrong - i'm not an expert... just based on what i know
of the
> other e devs etc... i happen to know/have done more. in the field. :)
>
> seriously... did you LOOK? there is barely any api... look at
multisense.edc...
> it's also all documented... i think you need to spend the time to look at
how
> little visible api it adds. it is mostly adding internal stuff that makes
it
> possible to mix and play audio at ALL - thats most of it, as well as
encode
> audio samples into the edj file. thats really the vast majority of it
right
> now. it's a tiny bare-bones minimal subset of a much more extensive edc
api i
> specced that included envelopes, instrument definitions, looping,
sequences
> (tracks), patterns, specific channel control as well as
auto-dynamic-channel
> creation etc. etc. i can't send you the example right now - but i have a
much
> fuller spec. what u see in this patch is tiny and adds almost nothing.
take a
> closer look.
>
> --
> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    [email protected]
>
>

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