On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:28:28 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Carsten Haitzler > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:13:32 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > >> I really don't know why I bother to explain these things I know > >> will get nowhere. > > > > i've already said we can support it. i just disagree that that is a > > first port of call or the only port of call. i disagree that we > > totally reply on PA for everything we need audio-wise. > > As I said, maybe not clear enough: "we can't rely on PA" is the worse > part. We use that to motivate us to create something new out of > nowhere instead of helping other freesoftware projects. The "excuse" > is often no time and higher priority things. Actually, as much as I like Pulse Audio, and as much as I think a lot of the people that are against it just base their hatred on the early buggy versions that some distros moved to, Pulse Audio is not the be all and end all. I wont use it on my EFL embedded project for instance, but love it on my desktop. The fact that there are plenty of vocal Pulse Audio haters in the world means that we should produce something that can ALSO run on ALSA and OSS. > - what first looks like simple (20% of the work that maps to 80% > of requirements), will end consuming our already scarce time (the 80% > of the time that maps to 20% of requirements). This results in more > work to do in the long run for a minimal initial save. If you stop to > think, Embryo is an example of this, now we figured out it was better > to use Lua. :-S Um no. Lua is an alternative, not a replacement for embryo. In fact raster wants lua to specifically NOT be a clone of embryo. Caused me to waste some time trying to reimplement embryo in lua before he told me that. lol The project I'm using to reality check lua uses a combination of lua and embryo. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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