On 12/04/12 11:11, David Seikel wrote:
> <rant>
>
> I'll say again though, if I'm not using it, for ANYTHING, then it's
> just a waste of space and time to have on this embedded system that
> needs to be as small as possible.  I don't need intl, it's only ever
> gonna be used in English.  I probably don't even need line breaking,
> but I don't know yet.  If I do, a simple "Is this a space in ASCII?" is
> all I'll ever need.  Since that's pretty much what I get if I
> --disable-linebreak, then it's important to me that it actually works.
>
> It's not a good thing to waste more time compiling stuff I don't need,
> especially when I sometimes have to compile it on a x486, or qemu
> pretending it's a x486.  The more time I can shave of those 9 hour
> compiles, the better.  The smaller I can make it, the better.  The less
> code the government testing labs have to deal with, the better.  There
> are many reasons why I should get rid of stuff that's entirely useless
> for this specific project.  Especially if it's just a --disable-foo to
> get rid of it.
>
> I do wish people would stop telling me "Oh just include this, and just
> include that, it's all good".  I'm the one that knows what the specs
> are for this job, and I'm the one that has to shave off as much useless
> stuff as is reasonable.  I get to decide what goes and what stays based
> on my knowledge of the project, so if I'm making an effort to remove
> something, there's a good reason why, and people should just stop
> second guessing me.  "It's just not needed" is a great reason to remove
> things if possible in this project.
>
> In a later, non embedded, not needing to be approved by the government,
> not having to run on a x486, project I plan on doing, and another one I
> started in January, there will be need for all the bells and whistles.
> In this project, and the next embedded project, it's really important
> to cut the bloat.
>
> Remember, one of the important things we claim for EFL is it's small
> size and usefulness on embedded systems.  I'm reality checking those
> claims in some of my work.  I need to get it to work on a tiny little
> x486.  Personally I would have preferred a somewhat more grunty ARM,
> on an even smaller board, but I could not convince the client of
> that.  The x486 board had one thing on it that could not be found on
> any ARM board, at a reasonable cost, an interface to some other part of
> the hardware of the completed system. Oh well, at least I like this
> sort of challange.  B-)
>
> So next time I say "Hey, X is not working well when you disable Y, but
> it should", please, I don't want people telling me over and over again
> "Just leave Y in, it's all good, you'll need it".  Coz at that stage,
> I've already decided that I'm better off without it, with damn good
> reasons.
>
> </rant>
>
> <sleep>

I just wonder why this rant was posted as a reply to my post, all I said 
is that it's a good thing to have.

--
Tom.


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