On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:21:23 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:00:31 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:48:09 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > > said: > > > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:18:39 +0100 Stefan Schmidt > > > <s.schm...@samsung.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > On 06/20/2012 10:07 AM, David Seikel wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:41:40 +0900 Cedric > > > > > BAIL<cedric.b...@free.fr> > > > > > > > > > > So make your blingy tab substitute, but those of us that like > > > > > and use tabs are watching, and we will bitch loudly if what you > > > > > make is a backwards step for the functionality we want. Then > > > > > one of us will make tabs anyway. :-P > > > > > > > > As you already found out you are not going to change each others > > > > minds. How about just writing your tabs support if you want it > > > > that much or just stay with your current tabs-enabled terminal? > > > > As usual nobody is forcing people to use it. :) > > > > > > Actually, I'm not arguing the case for unlimited scrollback > > > precisely coz I've decided I'll just implement it myself. Some > > > day. I have a never ending TODO with more important things on it > > > at the moment though. > > > > > > > > Options are good, not everyone thinks the same. > > > > > > > > Fully agreed. And being respectful for other peoples opinions > > > > without trying to force your own on it is part of that. :) > > > > > > Well, I'm not trying to force my opinions, just pointing out use > > > cases that are important to me that so far this new way as > > > described has not managed to cover. The bling side of the argument > > > keep telling me that those use cases are just not important, when > > > they are important to me, and ignoring the most important "it's > > > harder to use dammit". > > > > > > I never said "don't do that new blingy thing", but "that new blingy > > > thing wont do everything the old little bit of text does a great job > > > of". There's room for both. In fact if the infrastructure is > > > there, then both could use it, as there IS some amount of overlap > > > in what they are trying to do. I just don't see how bling can > > > replace certain use cases that a tiny bit of text does a great job > > > of. The people that are putting in the effort should consider that > > > common infrastructure is a good thing, and that it SHOULD be able > > > to cater for both. It's best to get this sort of thing done early > > > at the design level. So far it's been "bling good, tabs bad", and > > > I don't see how that attitude can result in both things being well > > > supported. Might end up with "tabs bad" as a self fulfilling > > > prophecy if the people doing the work now think that way. > > > > > > The way the others have been arguing sounds a LOT like "hate tabs, > > > wont support them, we can do bling, let's only do bling" and > > > completely ignoring that little bits of text are hard to replace > > > for certain use cases. They even argue that tabs take up too much > > > room, though the thumbnails they want would take up more room. > > > > > > And yes, that's exactly what happened in Elementary. It's hard to > > > do traditional tabs there, when you try, they take up way more > > > space. Or > > > > use toolbar with horizontal items like i use in terminiology. they > > take up only the height of the text - UNLESS your elementary is set > > up with a large finger size to make them big to be hit with a big > > chubby finger. that happens to be elm's default setup because elm has > > been driven by development for touch ui's primarily. switch profile > > to standard and they come down in size to tabs. > > That's what I did, a toolbar with horizontal items. Is there some way > to make them look like tabs? > > I'm doing this already and it's still coming out big - > > elm_config_finger_size_set(0); > elm_config_scale_set(1.0); don't do that! it's for a config app to do that. run elementary_config - use the tool provided with elementary. it's there in e17's settings menus too. > Where's this "switch profile to standard" thingy? > > /me wanders off to eat before searching. > > -- > A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants > coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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