So the efreet cache is being generated then....Hrmm, That means the 
_e_startup_event_cb should be getting reached then. If it is, then e_exec may 
be failing (for some unknown reason). You could add some printfs in e_startup 
(around line 65) to check the return of e_exec...something like: 


if (!(e_exec( NULL , desktop , NULL , NULL , NULL0 ))) 
printf("Failed to exec startup application: %s\n", desktop->name); 


Tho that is only going to tell you which app failed to start, not necessarily 
why, Add the above and see if e_exec is indeed failing. If so, we have to dig 
deeper. 


dh 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Hoogland" <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> 
To: "Enlightenment developer list" <enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 11:45:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [E-devel] Debugging a Startup Applications Issue 

Just a gentle nudge of other places I can stick debug messages (and what 
they should output) into the E code to figure out what is going on here... 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Christopher Michael <cpmicha...@comcast.net 
> wrote: 

> Christopher Michael <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: 
> 
> Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> wrote: 
> 
> Also - the live CD can write to the home directory. It is all stored in 
> memory basically - behaves the same as a normal user - never been an issue 
> in the past. 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com 
> >wrote: 
> 
> > I've got 5 desktop files being generated in ~/.cache/efreet so I'm not 
> > sure that is the issue. I'll have to decompile the .eet files and compare 
> > them to my installed user I guess. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Christopher Michael < 
> > cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: 
> > 
> >> Michael Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:01:47 -0500 
> >> Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> > OK so played around with my installed system and 
> >> > *_e_startup_event_cb*appears to be running there and thus my startup 
> >> > applications are working... 
> >> > Any ideas why this function might not be working with my live user? 
> >> > 
> >> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Jeff Hoogland < 
> jeffhoogl...@linux.com 
> >> >wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > > OK - 
> >> > > 
> >> > > So, I'm having an issue with Enlightenment on my latest Bodhi disc - 
> >> for 
> >> > > my live user no startup applications run when Enlightenment is 
> >> started... 
> >> > > At the suggestion of Raster/Devilhorns I've started adding print 
> >> commands 
> >> > > to the *e_startup.c*, but I still haven't pinned down the issue. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > The path to the home directory in *e_startup* is being correctly 
> >> saved to 
> >> > > the buf argument (it is showing the proper 
> >> > > /home/bodhi/.e/e/applications/startup/.order). Next I dropped a 
> print 
> >> > > command into the *_e_startup_event_cb* to see if the desktop cache 
> is 
> >> > > being set right (that is the next place I should look right?) And 
> >> much to 
> >> > > my surprise that function doesn't seem to be getting run at E's 
> >> startup. 
> >> > > Should that function be running or am I looking in the wrong place? 
> >> Any 
> >> > > other ideas what I should be looking for that might be causing this 
> >> issue? 
> >> > > 
> >> > > The oddest part about the whole thing is that for my installed users 
> >> > > startup applications work 100% fine. 
> >> > > 
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> >> > > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> I added code which specifically disables the functionality upon 
> detecting 
> >> that 
> >> you're using it. File a bug on trac and I'll get to it next year. 
> >> 
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> >> Hey Stu...be nice to Jeff or I will be forced to beat u with the trout 
> :-P 
> >> 
> >> On a serious note, Jeff it could be that the efreet cache is not running 
> >> because it is a live cd and efreet is thinking that it has no place to 
> >> store it's cache of the desktop files (due to cd being read only). Its 
> >> possible that efreet may need modifications to handle this. IIRC efreet 
> >> stores its cache also in the user homedir (cant remember the exact 
> path). 
> >> Because the cd is RO it cannot write it :-( Efrret may need 
> modification to 
> >> store cache in a tmp dir. 
> >> 
> >> I could be totally off base here so take with a grain of salt....but 
> >> certainly smells like that is the issue... 
> >> 
> >> Ping Seb (englebass) wrt efreet. 
> >> 
> >> Cheers 
> >> Dh 
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> Hmmmmm. Interesting.... Worth looking into further IMO 
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> Fair wnought :;-) Pointing to a larger problem then ;-) No worries Jeff.. 
> It WILL get sorted even if I hAvAe to put the minions on it. We WILL get 
> this sortrd "!"! 
> U HA'E .MY WORD.I wbill not rest until this is Correct !!! Even if it 
> neans Putting some one on it 24/7. 
> 
> 
> Bodhi is important to E!! ;-) U know U have My Support !!! 
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