On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Lucas De Marchi > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Lucas De Marchi >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> that's what the commit message is for. When it does all automatically, >>>>>>>> then it's an option. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> did you look at the Evil's changeLog ? You'll see why the commit >>>>>>> message is not sufficient >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are talking about the list of files changed, it is just plain >>>>>> useless. There is a --verbose option of svn log that will also output >>>>>> the changed files. >>>>> >>>>> you're stupid or what ? We are not talking about the content of a >>>>> changelog but of its layout ! >>>> >>>> >>>> It seems everybody except you agree the ChangeLog file is just plain useless. >>> >>> ultra funny. It's just profusion guys who want to drop changelog >> >> Eduardo doesn't work here: >> >> Excerpt from the README file in libabc >> ( https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/kay/libabc.git;a=blob;f=README;h=b4bed51b0403f0f55f4e8bb4706cd97e23c4858c;hb=HEAD ): >> >> Update NEWS to let developers know what has changed >> - It's the history of the project, stuff that packagers need to know >> when putting a new version in the distro. The interesting changes >> or added/removed functionality from version to version. This is >> not a commit changelog. >> - If you want to provide ChangeLog, use the one generated >> by git, do not maintain your own. > > so what ? counter-example: > > http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Change-Logs.html > >> kernel doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> systemd doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> bluez doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> connman doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> kernel doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> node doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> go doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> pulseaudio doesn't use a ChangeLog file >> >> v8 uses a ChangeLog file that's really a NEWS file >> webkit uses a semi-automated ChangeLog file, creating the commit >> message from the changelog. And it's stupid. Been there. > > and i'm sure i can find HUNDREDS of libs with changelog. I have as > many arguments as you have. > >> And WE are back to 90's maintaining that stupid files ourselves > > to be clear : I don't like our NEWS file. For me: > > ChangeLog should contain exactly what its name means : log of changes. > Not all of changes of course. > > NEWS means what's new : that is, entries for the release, API > additions, deprecations, and eventually the mention of a big > improvement or a fix of a really big bug. That is, all the > improvements part should go away, as I agree that it duplicates what > is in ChangeLog. raster and others add that part, i accepted it. But I > don't like it. And that's not the only stuff that I don't like but > that i have accpeted in that project. > >> >> And Vincent, please stop taking it personal and insulting the others. >> Use "stupid" for ideas. Not people. > > the conversation is heated, that's all. I'm from south of France and > we are not calm people, there. His answer upset me because what he > said was almost an insult to what I did in Evil's ChangeLog. But > nobody noted that. So I won't apologize.
And I'm italian, so: [image: Inline image 1] Lucas De Marchi
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