On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:12:52 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo <seojuyu...@gmail.com> said:
yeah. i dont see any way it could be different. it has to init elm stuff in case
u use an elm external from an app that doesnt use elm. it's needed. the only
possible way i see is one of:
1. make elm_exit a "we will never elm_run again without an elm_init so feel
free to delete all windows"
OR
2. we add an elm policy mode (we have ways of setting policy enums - eg auto do
elm_exit() when last window is deleted) that does this but then its opt-in
OR
3. add an elm_win_all_del() that does the deletion of all windows and again its
an explicit opt-in.
right now i don't smell any other solution.
> Understood.
> That looks quite complicated issue.
> I don't have any solid idea about that.
> But thanks for spotting this issue.
>
> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Bruno Dilly <bdi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Daniel Juyung Seo
> > <seojuyu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> So elm_exit() means, we are not going to continue the main loop anyhow?
> >
> > We'll keep elm_exit() the way it is, a call to ecore_main_loop_quit()
> >
> > Right now, on elm_shutdown, when _elm_init_count reaches 0, it will
> > call _elm_win_shutdown, that will go through the list of windows and
> > delete all of them.
> > But, if your theme uses externals, the count won't reaches 0 unless
> > you explicitly deletes the externals before exiting.
> >
> > I thought about adding a policy that would delete all the windows
> > forcedly on elm exit, but I decided to see if anybody could have some
> > ideas about changing externals init / shutdown design first. So we
> > could have applications with themes with or without externals working
> > the same way.
> >
> >>
> >> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Cedric BAIL <moa.blueb...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Cedric Bail
> >>> On Sep 29, 2012 10:26 PM, "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <
> >>> barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2012, Cedric BAIL wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > On Sep 29, 2012 6:28 AM, "Bruno Dilly" <bdi...@profusion.mobi
> >>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > > I just saw that when an elm external is added it calls elm_init(),
> >>>> > > and calls shutdown when it's deleted.
> >>>> > > But it's not a nice place to put these calls, because you'll create
> >>>> > > scenarios where elm won't shutdown properly.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Example:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > A elm application that uses elm_exit() to quit.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > it will have
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > elm_main() {
> >>>> > > ...
> >>>> > > elm_run()
> >>>> > > ...
> >>>> > > elm_shutdown()
> >>>> > > }
> >>>> > > ELM_MAIN
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > If you are not using externals, when you call elm_exit() it will quit
> >>>> > > the main loop, call elm_shutdown, elm init count will be 0, so it
> >>>> > > will delete the windows and it's widgets, call possible callback
> >>>> > > functions for object delete. Nice.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > But if you are using externals in your theme, when you call
> >>>> > > elm_shutdown(), elm init count will be the number of externals used,
> >>>> > > so it won't really shutdown, it won't delete the objects, no
> >>>> > > callbacks will be called. Not good.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Does anybody have ideas about how to fix it ?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Evas_object_del on the window should do the job and seem logical to me.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That's the problem: windows are never destroyed since elm initialization
> >>>> count never drops to zero, then no Evas shutdown and no canvas deleted.
> >>>>
> >>>> He was talking to me about elm policy to request windows to be deleted on
> >>>> elm_exit() and I like that idea.
> >>>
> >>> Make sense to me to, as it's the common case.
> >>>
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