On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Gustavo Lima Chaves
<[email protected]> wrote:
> * Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> [2012-10-31 11:38:52 +0900]:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Christophe Dumez
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> There are lots of concerns from EFL developers (me included) on how
>> >>>> the development of WebKit-EFL is being done. The API of webkit2 even
>> >>>> not being fully supported by EFL, as contrary to webkit1. There's only
>> >>>> 1 developer that seemed to care and started to send patches to
>> >>>> elm-web, so webkit2 can be fully supported.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No surprise there was feedback asking for clarifications and why a
>> >>>> simpler api couldn't be used. Now you come and say WebKit1 is being
>> >>>> deprecated.  -1000 here, until the day webkit2 gets fully supported in
>> >>>> EFL and you start to interact more with EFL devs.
>> >>>
>> >>> The proposed date for dropping WK1 EFL from upstream is 8 month away. I 
>> >>> think this
>> >>> gives a reasonable amount of time for people currently relying on WK1 
>> >>> EFL to port their code to WK2 EFL.
>> >>> If anything, this should motivate people to make sure all the components 
>> >>> work with WK2 EFL.
>> >>
>> >> 8 months is clearly to short from now is clearly to short. 8 months
>> >> after WK2 EFL API is stabilized and "released" (I mean by that, that
>> >> any API/ABI break of it will be forbidden). Then you can consider
>> >> dropping WK1 EFL. Announcing that you will drop WK1 EFL when WK2 EFL
>> >> is not even stable, is not a proper move in my opinion.
>> >>
>> >> Upstream EFL does use WK1 EFL in the 1.7.x branch, that will be used
>> >> by E17 release later this year. This means that all distribution that
>> >> do want to package EFL with a stable release for E17 will be depending
>> >> on WK1 EFL. You can stop development, only do bugfixes, but removing
>> >> it is clearly not a smart move here.
>> >>
>> >>> About interaction with EFL developers, I don't think we have any problem 
>> >>> answering questions related
>> >>> to WebKit EFL (via this mailing list or the IRC channel) or fix bugs 
>> >>> filed upstream against WebKit EFL.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, you have. I am aware of the move to WK2 EFL since less than 3
>> >> weeks. If some nice Samsung guy didn't try to help EFL upstream to
>> >> move away of WK1 EFL we wouldn't be even have any proper information
>> >> and code here. At this point, the WebKit EFL people need to get more
>> >> involved with EFL. It's not a matter of answering question, it's about
>> >> using the same tool and do that efficiently ! If we don't share
>> >> infromation more effectively, this kind of thread is going to repeat.
>> >> I strongly encourage every developer of WK EFL to join e-devel mailing
>> >> list and ping people there when there is important subject to bring in
>> >> (like new dependencies, feature request, ...). I am now subscribed to
>> >> this mailing list and will try to keep reading it, but that's not
>> >> enough. WK EFL team should get more engadged with EFL developer in
>> >> general.
>> >
>> > As a related note: although Ecore provides curl/http, WebKit still
>> > uses the crap alien that is libsoup. Why not start the Webkit + EFL
>> > adding the missing bits to Ecore_Con and then using it natively in
>> > WebKit, instead of forcing glib-mainloop integration for nothing?
>>
>> I can't but only agree and wish for that to happen soon.
>
> +1 here. Then it would be just cairo on the gtk land, I guess.

what about using enesim instead of cairo ? The rendering of esvg is
faster than with librsvg, and is much more powerful, and it is not
optimized, so plenty of room for improvements

Vincent

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