On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:35:18 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
<[email protected]> said:

> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:46:04 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
> > <[email protected]> said:
> >
> >> Does the enlightenment menu still make sense? IMO actions on this menu
> >> could either be absorbed by other menus or removed altogether:
> >>
> >> - About: remove (outdated/useless info?)
> >
> > about is 100% up to date. it shows the current version, authors and
> > licensing info. the unstable message will go once e is released.
> 
> My question is:  why is this any useful to the user?  We could hide it
> a bit more in the menus or anywhere else, not standing in the first
> sublevel menu as if the user had an urgent need to know this info
> 
> I myself never used it.
> 
> >
> >> - Theme: remove (btw, it opens a window saying I'm using B&W theme
> >> instead of dark)
> >
> > this is the place themers can advertise... it should stay. and yes - i know
> > it doesnt talk about the new theme - it's not updated yet.
> 
> Why? My first guess when I look at it is to change the current theme,
> not to open a window talking about the current theme.

actually thats a great idea... theme about should have a button there for
changing theme - a signal to bring up the theme selector. good idea. :)

> >
> >> - Restart:  move to "System" menu?
> >
> > restart system or e?
> 
> reaname it to "Restart E" or remove, letting things like this to be ctrl+alt
> +end

still not sure it belongs in system as its not affecting your system as a whole
which is what the other stuff in system are... and "restart e" will make people
go "e?" - those not familiar with enlightenment may not be familiar with the
shortening to a single letter... and if we make it "restart enlightenment" the
button is going to be massive because we aren't doing linebreaks in the button
text...

> >> - Exit: already  done by System > Logout
> >
> > umm no. exit is different. exit just exits e. logout tries to close all
> > running windows then exits. exit is immediate. logout will wait and show a
> > popup etc.
> 
> And... what do we need this for?

if you want e to behave like every other wm has in existence on exit. you may
not use e as your session manager and want to exit e to have another wm start
after it.

all in all - i've never heard any complaints about the e menu until today -
over the years. you're the first at least that i hear saying that its
confusing/bad... so until there is more evidence, i'd say keep it.

> 
> Lucas De Marchi
> 
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