On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:00:04 +1030 Simon <si...@simotek.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri 
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, November 21, 2012, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >
> >> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schrieb:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 21, 2012, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:54:14 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz
> >>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com  <javascript:;>  <javascript:;>>
> >>>> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Carsten Haitzler <
> >> ras...@rasterman.com  <javascript:;><javascript:;>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:18:41 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz
> >>>>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com  <javascript:;>
> >>>>>> <javascript:;>> said:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ah, how quickly bets are made against me the instant I leave
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>> country.
> >>>>>>> my league of admirers is always so reliable!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> distcheck is always run before a release. always.
> >>>>>> then how did it pass when the edje_cc in the 1.7 branch
> >>>>>> literally did crash in
> >>>>>> this scenario - it wasnt random. it literally was ALWAYS a
> >>>>>> strcmp
> >>>> against
> >>>>>> NULL...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I said previously that I run the stable branch at work; I'm
> >>>>>>> not at
> >>>> work.
> >>>>>> aaaah so you didn't distcheck this one against stable branch?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I'm on vacation, bedridden most of the time with the German
> >>>>> Plague and
> >> a
> >>>>> fever so high that the top of it can't be seen from the peak of
> >>>>> Mt. Everest. Despite this, I managed to drag myself to my
> >>>>> computer to try
> >> and
> >>>>> do a release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would appreciate greatly if people could stop being less
> >>>>> negative and critical, and instead focus more on being both
> >>>>> productive and
> >>>> constructive.
> >>>>
> >>>> fair enough - i just never expected this should even get through
> >>>> if you
> >> are
> >>>> building/testing against 1.7 - since you are not right now that
> >>>> dos
> >> create
> >>>> some
> >>>> issues and changes expectations that you are testing against
> >>>> that.
> >>>
> >>> How about you, Raster? Are you able to test with 1.7.x? You've
> >>> mentioned this edje_cc bug and the Evas leaks. Anything else that
> >>> is know but
> >> pending
> >>> to be debugged in EFL (leaks, crashes) or we can do a 1.7.2?
> >> If doing a full release cycle for all released libs is too much
> >> work, what about just a minor release for edje (like version
> >> 1.7.1.1), so that users can again use release tarballs to build
> >> alpha4 of e17?
> > Seems reasonable. But I guess there are other stuff in other libs
> > to be out. They just wanted to get it closer to e17 being out.
> >
> > I'd say we need the libs should be out before e17, then we can make
> > sure it works.
> >
> > Then the only situation to avoid releasing EFL is if there is
> > something pending fix (leaks, crashes) that must get done before
> > such release.
> 
> > It shouldn't happen when blocker issues were fixed.
> > There is definitely no point in releasing a new tarball that can't
> > be used with 1.7.x branch.
> > It's blocker, new e17 tarball won't build.
> >
> > In this case a version 1.7.2 should be released.
> >
> > Before releasing e17, most probably more fixes will be done, and a
> > version 1.7.3 should be released.
> > But if another blocker issue is found, another release would be
> > required before.
> >
> > Sure, it's impossible to Mike handle all this stuff alone. Luis
> > commented he and Mike were talking about creating a release team or
> > something like that to handle this situation.
> > Most probably they will send something to the list about it soon.
> >
> > Regards.
> 
> +1
> 
> There should also be a efl 1.7.x beta out a week before the final e17
> release so we get atleast 2 e17 beta's built against it, Neither
> should change to much unless something goes horribly wrong failure to
> do this could quite likely mean emergency bugfix releases within a
> week after the actual release. I prefer the idea of a edje 1.7.1.1 to
> patching it manually (Atleast we all still have the same codebase)
> however Bruno's suggestion is definitely my preferred one.
> 
> In my opinion If everyone is so under the pump and busy they can't do
> a 1.7.x release this week the e17 release should be pushed back 1
> week (or till the new year if its more practical) due to major issues
> found during alpha.

But then we will miss the end of the world and it will be too late.  B-)

-- 
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coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.

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