On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:49:24 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:14:09 -0600 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> 
> said:
> 
> > Working really hard to get a release all setup with the stable E17
> > packages, but I seem to be hitting more road blocks with this one than any
> > of the previous snapshots.
> > 
> > Not sure what changed, but between Omega and the Stable release every
> > single one of the custom profiles I created for the Omega release stopped
> > working with the stable release (they simply restart the wizard). Not a big
> > deal, I've created all my custom profiles.
> 
> we changed major version number and versining scheme. we bumped major version
> up in order to force people to start afresh from a clean "default" config as

Such things should not happen in the day of the release. You should have done
this somewhere between alpha and beta stages probably. But you didn't.
Zmike made a lot of announcements, asked people to test enlightenment and
then trashed their configs. That's really mean and disappointing.


-- Igor

> "recommended" and then modify from there. your profiles will be crufty and 
> have
> all sorts of settings in them that are no different by default that you may 
> not
> know what or why. so i SUGGEST you start from the standard config and then
> modify again from there.
> 
> this i guess is the price of using pre-release software from svn. :( you get
> it.. but wehn release comes... we have put the mechanisms in place to upgrade
> and modify config. we have, during the past few years, used the "nice way"
> which is just upgrade small bits at a time (new cfg vals), but we haven't used
> the "nuke button" any time recently. for release we pressed the nuke button.
> 
> fyi version is now divided into 2 sections. major version (100000 *) and minor
> version (0-99999). so you'll have versions like:
> 
> 100001
> 100002
> etc.
> 
> when we bump MAJOR version number up... your cfg is wiped autmatically by e.
> 
> we bump major version WHEN the cfg is incompatible with the one you have.
> release at least for us == incompatible, even if in most cases it happens to
> work, we know there are 1000's of users with "crufty old configs" who will
> report issues forever and we'll go "works for me" and the reality is.. they
> have some options swizzled that we don't expect them to, and they don't even
> know, because its an inherited old option.
> 
> > Now issues - I haven't been able to solve.
> > 
> > First - the mixer window seems bugged. I cannot resize dialog windows and
> > the mixer settings does not allow me to select which channel I want to
> > gadget to use. Image example -> http://imgur.com/8xUki
> 
> that's weird, mine's much taller than yours... even with a smaller font. i've
> made it resizable... maybe it has no channels?
> 
> > Second - in the mobile profile, when I add a systray gadget to the panel
> > that contains icons (nm-applet, skype ect.) it causes an instant segfault.
> > If the systray is empty - it adds fine and then causes a segfault as soon
> > as I launch an application that would add a gadget to it.
> 
> aaah illume. it needs love. it just hasnt had enough of it of late and this 
> was
> one of the reasons iw as considering removing it all for release. i left it in
> because of you... you'll have to live with its quirks for a while to come i
> fear.
> 
> > Again - didn't have these issues on the Omega release with 1.7.3 EFLs. I am
> > using the 1.7.4 EFLs with "stable" release tarball.

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