On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:30:25 +0000 Nathan Baxter
<nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said:

> On 15/02/13 10:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:41:59 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
> > <almusalimalmusali...@gmail.com> said:
> >
> >>> what? do what gnome did? :) ie lose users. :) seriously. the old fashioned
> >>> look
> >>> is what e is doing (by default) and that's because its what people
> >>> generally
> >>> want or accept. if you want something else its as easy as configuring -
> >>> making
> >>> your own profiles from your config, adding modules or writing them, making
> >>> themes etc. - it's not something core to e itself. :)
> >>>
> >> ========================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >> i am with you about customizing the desktop with what we already get
> >>
> >> but i am also here to share an idea with you .... if you dont want to hear
> >> it
> >>
> >> then its your decision and i respect it
> >>
> >> i am not here to force you and other people to share it
> > happy to listen, but there will be resistance to changing a default away
> > from something traditional that people like and know and can use. gnome
> > made that mistake.. and then didnt offer a "quick - give me back what i
> > had" option. we should, if anything, do experiments in alternative
> > profiles, not the standard. small improvements to the standard one - sure.
> > little tweaks and improvements - yes. major re-creations that leave people
> > wondering how to use e.. bad.
> >
> 
> Are there any plans to re-instate buttons? Like the ones in e16, but better.

no. no plans.

> A configurable block like that could prove really useful, it was doing 
> what hover desk did before hover desk did it. Now that we have these 
> shevles which can be placed where ever I'm assuming that it may only 
> take a module to be created to enable this, in fact this module could be 
> block configurable for specific applications. You could set it up so 
> that the primary applications take up a larger percentage of space over 
> the less used ones, it could be an extension of favourites and/or have 
> it's own application set.

correct. it is as simple as a module. :) shelves were covering the common case
of "i want stuff along an edge of my screen - please lay it out for me and
handle it when my screen changes resolution". what you want is something much
more "custom". to some extent desktop gadgets do this - but you need a module
to provide a "programmable object" - ie something that is "display image X and
when clicked on do Y" which is rather trivial. :)

what makes me not do it by default is handling layout when screens get
reconfigured. i'd prefer to have it automagically "just work". :)

> and instead of having the pager shown, that could be hidden as the 
> applications that get launched are placed on their own desktop. I 
> wouldn't like to see this as default, just throwing out some ideas based 
> on current technologies. I'd also like to point that this is all 
> hypothetical as I have no idea how to build these elements in code, just 
> how they might function & look from a design perspective.

:)

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